crankshaft pulley

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hi chaps, had a rattle start this morning and i'm pretty sure its the pulley damper gone, had a look whilst running and there is visible movement (rattle/vibration) of the damper, compared to the grooved part of the pulley. just wanted to verify that this shouldn't happen during normal operation. i.e. confirmation my damper is fecked.
 
just looking through a tutorial on how to change these, i was thinking, why do they need a damper weight on these and has anyone just removed the damper as a temporary fix, to keep using the landy whilst waiting for parts? (and avoid having the weight fly off and smash up other bits). would it do any harm in the short (or even long) term?
 
just looking through a tutorial on how to change these, i was thinking, why do they need a damper weight on these and has anyone just removed the damper as a temporary fix, to keep using the landy whilst waiting for parts? (and avoid having the weight fly off and smash up other bits). would it do any harm in the short (or even long) term?
As far as I know, it's there to cancel out harmonics in the crankshaft. Without it working properly your engine will be subject to vibrations it could do without. Short term not good, long term v bad.
 
As far as I know, it's there to cancel out harmonics in the crankshaft. Without it working properly your engine will be subject to vibrations it could do without. Short term not good, long term v bad.
did some more research and found out what you said about the vibrations. problem is, i desperately need it for work. i also saw what damage happens to the pulley spokes if you leave it in situ for a while- the inner lugs chew into them. eventually that would lead to catastrophic failure. i could live with the noise for a couple of days until i get the parts but i dont know how long it would take for the pulley to destroy itself. would 20 or 30 miles a day for 2 or 3 days without the balancer on be too detrimental to the engine?
 
did some more research and found out what you said about the vibrations. problem is, i desperately need it for work. i also saw what damage happens to the pulley spokes if you leave it in situ for a while- the inner lugs chew into them. eventually that would lead to catastrophic failure. i could live with the noise for a couple of days until i get the parts but i dont know how long it would take for the pulley to destroy itself. would 20 or 30 miles a day for 2 or 3 days without the balancer on be too detrimental to the engine?
I've honestly no idea, mate. This chat may help someone spot the thread on LZ-Live or something. I don't know what the Td5 ones are like, I thought they were all one unit. Didn't realise there was a removable section on the Td5 ones.
 
hi chaps, had a rattle start this morning and i'm pretty sure its the pulley damper gone, had a look whilst running and there is visible movement (rattle/vibration) of the damper, compared to the grooved part of the pulley. just wanted to verify that this shouldn't happen during normal operation. i.e. confirmation my damper is fecked.
put a spanner on the crank bolt and rock it ,if it feels rubbery its ok if it has play its had it ,they will run with metal to metal for some time but be noisy on start up and idle
 
I've honestly no idea, mate. This chat may help someone spot the thread on LZ-Live or something. I don't know what the Td5 ones are like, I thought they were all one unit. Didn't realise there was a removable section on the Td5 ones.
the balance weight bolts onto the pulley but the rubber bit is inside the pulley. if they had put the rubber inside the weight, then that could have been changed without removing the pulley. even if they had put a couple of lugs inside the pulley, that would have stopped the rubber spinning inside it.
 
put a spanner on the crank bolt and rock it ,if it feels rubbery its ok if it has play its had it ,they will run with metal to metal for some time but be noisy on start up and idle
i thought the crank bolt would feel the same whatever the condition of the pulley. at 320nm it should just feel solid. or did you mean the bolts holding the balancer on?
 
i thought the crank bolt would feel the same whatever the condition of the pulley. at 320nm it should just feel solid. or did you mean the bolts holding the balancer on?
no crank bolt ,crank will turn and pulley will want to stop still because of belt and ancillaries
 
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Does it look like this?
 
hi chaps, had a rattle start this morning and i'm pretty sure its the pulley damper gone, had a look whilst running and there is visible movement (rattle/vibration) of the damper, compared to the grooved part of the pulley. just wanted to verify that this shouldn't happen during normal operation. i.e. confirmation my damper is fecked.
@jamesmartin would it not make sense to take the weight off then? Does it bolt in to the rubber, so if removed the rubber will last a we bit longer?
 
you might be right its awhile since i had one off, but it wont help either way
here's a pic i found where the weight had strangely sheared off completely but the pulley still worked-
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you can see the rubber 'doughnut' which usually separates from the outer ring, allowing the inner lugs (obviously broken off in this pic) to smack against the spokes which then results in this-
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i wouldn't like to guess how long it would take to chew right through those spokes...
though without the damper on, i would think a lot longer. then of course you have the issue of no damper, so excessive vibration on the crankshaft. so going back to my original question, what would be the lesser of two evils?
 
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