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Horse trailer today, wheel left the vehicle and jumped the hedge ...
Have the studs snapped off on this?
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Have the studs snapped off on this?
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No surprise there! It doesn't help that the regulators keep on moving the goalposts all the time.
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It does look like at least one of those studs has snapped, the one in the 2 o'clock position.
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If tis 40 in May it becomes eligible for exemption 1st Jan '19
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That was probably the one that had the anti-theft nut on it.Was prolly the last one hanging on
They'd lost the wheel nut key!
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Deeply saddened to hear of the child's passing, such tragic loss of a life just beginning.
I can only imagine what her parents are going through.
It's easy to be judgemental but we must await the outcome of the police investigation before apportioning blame. I do hope his insurers were aware of any mods. though.
I can only imagine what her parents are going through.
It's easy to be judgemental but we must await the outcome of the police investigation before apportioning blame. I do hope his insurers were aware of any mods. though.
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What a horrendous story.Bizarrely, I was just about to post a question regarding wheels nuts and newly paint wheels when I read this. I'm not normally rattled by news like this but being new to fatherhood its a stark reminder of how fragile life is.
My situation:-
I recently had some steel land rover rims shot-blasted and primed; I then brush-painted them with 2 coats of coach enamel; I then had the tyres fitted. On collecting the rebuilt wheels from the type place (ATS Euromaster, so a national chain) the chap there advised I should sand the paint out of the wheel nut recesses as the nutys would not tighten properly against the soft paint. This was before Christmas and the wheels haven't gone back on yet so the paint has had a few months longer to dry than he might of considered.
In light of the tragic accident, I'm alert to the possibility of wheels flying off, and the very last thing I would want is for anyone to be put at any remote chance of danger. At the same time, is the sanding of the nut recesses necessary?
What do you guys think? FYI, the vehicle is a Series 3.
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Bizarrely, I was just about to post a question regarding wheels nuts and newly paint wheels when I read this. I'm not normally rattled by news like this but being new to fatherhood its a stark reminder of how fragile life is.
My situation:-
I recently had some steel land rover rims shot-blasted and primed; I then brush-painted them with 2 coats of coach enamel; I then had the tyres fitted. On collecting the rebuilt wheels from the type place (ATS Euromaster, so a national chain) the chap there advised I should sand the paint out of the wheel nut recesses as the nutys would not tighten properly against the soft paint. This was before Christmas and the wheels haven't gone back on yet so the paint has had a few months longer to dry than he might of considered.
In light of the tragic accident, I'm alert to the possibility of wheels flying off, and the very last thing I would want is for anyone to be put at any remote chance of danger. At the same time, is the sanding of the nut recesses necessary?
What do you guys think? FYI, the vehicle is a Series 3.
Wheel nut recesses are usually bare metal. Can't do any harm to do sand them clean.
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Bizarrely, I was just about to post a question regarding wheels nuts and newly paint wheels when I read this. I'm not normally rattled by news like this but being new to fatherhood its a stark reminder of how fragile life is.
My situation:-
I recently had some steel land rover rims shot-blasted and primed; I then brush-painted them with 2 coats of coach enamel; I then had the tyres fitted. On collecting the rebuilt wheels from the type place (ATS Euromaster, so a national chain) the chap there advised I should sand the paint out of the wheel nut recesses as the nutys would not tighten properly against the soft paint. This was before Christmas and the wheels haven't gone back on yet so the paint has had a few months longer to dry than he might of considered.
In light of the tragic accident, I'm alert to the possibility of wheels flying off, and the very last thing I would want is for anyone to be put at any remote chance of danger. At the same time, is the sanding of the nut recesses necessary?
What do you guys think? FYI, the vehicle is a Series 3.
Sand I reckon. If anything the risk is greater with hardened paint I'd say. It's not hard enough to withstand the forces involved and will break up but too hard to be squidged aside like fresh paint.
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Or just scrape it out with a sharp knife.
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Yep! remove the paint by whatever means you're comfortable with and have to hand, sandpaper, emery cloth, a knife blade or a round wire brush in a drill chuck.
Then torque the nuts up to the correct setting.
Then torque the nuts up to the correct setting.
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I read somewhere tonight the owner was in his 20’s and had only had the disco a month.
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Bizarrely, I was just about to post a question regarding wheels nuts and newly paint wheels when I read this. I'm not normally rattled by news like this but being new to fatherhood its a stark reminder of how fragile life is.
My situation:-
I recently had some steel land rover rims shot-blasted and primed; I then brush-painted them with 2 coats of coach enamel; I then had the tyres fitted. On collecting the rebuilt wheels from the type place (ATS Euromaster, so a national chain) the chap there advised I should sand the paint out of the wheel nut recesses as the nutys would not tighten properly against the soft paint. This was before Christmas and the wheels haven't gone back on yet so the paint has had a few months longer to dry than he might of considered.
In light of the tragic accident, I'm alert to the possibility of wheels flying off, and the very last thing I would want is for anyone to be put at any remote chance of danger. At the same time, is the sanding of the nut recesses necessary?
What do you guys think? FYI, the vehicle is a Series 3.
A very tragic story indeed.
When steel wheels are new from the manufacturers, they are painted all over, including the nut seat. Just tightening the nuts to the correct torque will strip most of the paint off. However it's always wise to check the nuts again after a 100 miles or so, tightening again if needed.
Alloys are normally supplied with the nut seat stripped of paint. This is often a baked on coating so more likely to crack of in lumps around the tightened nut. If you're worried, then remove the paint at the nut seat and don't apply any lubrication either.
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Lubricating the nuts and/or the studs can result in them being over tightened even when you do use a torque wrench. Wheel nuts should go on dry.
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I’d never thought about this as I’m the f****r that has to undo them, I routinely use copper grease on wheel nuts. How much affect would the grease have? Are we talking 1nm or 20nm?
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So long as you don't leave them for years, it shouldn't be a problem to remove them without lubricant.
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I’m not saying they wouldn’t but I don’t see how copper grease would cause over torquing to the point of them being dangerous. I’m not trying to be right I’d like to understand as so many people apply copper grease to wheel studs
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Torque settings are calculated for either dry or lubricated threads. And if it says dry, it is usual to tighten them dry, and vice versa.
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Here is an article off the net. It says that anti slip can increase the torque required for a given bolt tension by 70%.
According to them, if you really feel a need to lubricate the threads, use 10/40 engine oil.
http://benmlee.com/4runner/threads/threads.htm
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