Bug out Bag / Survival Bag / Grab Bag

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Griffdowg

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I just wanted to post up some info on the above which I have been researching recently. Whilst It may initially seem a little bit extreme in this country, it would think it is worth considering for trips further afield.

So what am I talking about?

Im talking about a bag that contains a collection of gear that you could use in an emergency situation. I have had a long think and many a discussion on this and the only 2 likely senario's I can see are: a) the vehicle catches fire and it cannot be put out. b) submerged vehicles, occupants have to escape.

In either case, the vehicle is lost. Otherwise you would just gather your kit from the back of your vehicle! The bag would be situated where all passengers could reach it in a hurry and should all know where it is, whats in it and how to use it.

So what do you put in it?

much is down to personal choice. If your a survival expert probably just a big knife :D Your kit list will also be climate dependent. Would you really need a storm shelter in the desert? you also have to consider how many persons the kit would provide for. I have highlighted below a 5 key areas to consider:

1. Shelter/Warmth
2. Food/Water
3. Emergency Care/Documentation
4. Navigation/Survival Equipment
5. Signaling/Communication


ok, for my example I am going to use a temperate climate like we have here in the UK for 2 people and list the things I have just put together.

1. Shelter/warmth
I have gone for a traditional 'bothy bag' also known as a storm shelter as it packs small, is light, is wind/water proof and warms up quickly. coupled with a pair of personel emergency bags I think this should suffice. For warmth, I have just put in a pair of socks, a wooly hat and a micro-fleece. A pair of hand warmers have also been added as they pack heat and are small. It also pays to point out here that (after lots of thinking) That I am doing to dress according to the outside conditions whilst driving the vehicle (im sure series drivers allready do this). if its raining hard and you have the heaters on and wear a T-shirt what happens when you have to make a quick exit? yer, its raining and your only wearing a Tshirt!

2. Food/Water
small backpacking stove (MSR) with small pan. 2 ration packs and 4 energy bars. all eaten off a Spork. for Water I will carry only 1L with a purification system consisting of a milbank bag and iodine drops.

3. Emergency Care/Documentation
Lifesystems trek 1st aid kit with additional wound closure strips and 2 sachets of suncream. Documentation would vary, but some form of ID (Passport copy) and medical information, next of kin contacts etc etc.

4. Navigation/Survival Equipment
For navigation a good quality compass is a must. As you should know roughly where you are, you should not need a map to find the nearest inhabited place. Other equipment should consist of a good quality knife, light and some basics. I have included a fire striker, waterproof matches and fuel cells.

5. Signalling/Comms.

Signalling, I have a mountain whistle (6 loud bursts followed by 1min silence and repeat), glow sticks (3) and a mirror. All have thier advantages. I am also considering adding 2 flares (parachute and hand). For communication I am going to add a new pay as you go phone with country SIM. You may not always have your phone on you when you make your escape, so this may be all you need. International emergency number is 112. I may consider putting a satellite phone in here for destinations outside of good cell phone coverage areas.

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Sounds like a lot of kit, but It actually packs down really small and I am confident we could survive for sometime (3-4 days comfortably) on these basics. you may be able to trim this down or add to it, its your choice.

for drier climates things like the storm shelter could be ommited for something like a lightweight tarp, take more water/less food etc etc. Its worth thinking about.

So what does it all go in? There is no point having all this stuff if it gets ripped/wet/sinks so you need something tough and durable with no fancy bits to get caught up when exiting the vehicle. For this reason I have bought a 22L Ortlieb drybag, but there are loads of suitable bags out there. The beauty of these are that they are simple and tough. they float, they can be rolled down so if I only need 15L of kit I can make it smaller. I plan on taking an old shoulder strap from another bag and putting it inside the Ortlieb for storage. If the time comes to use it, I can clip it onto the D rings and throw it over my shoulder should I need to walk out.

For storage and easy access I plan to mount it onto the dog guard between the 2 seats using 50mm luggage straps with quick release buckles. I originally thought velcro, but think the QR buckles will be easier and quicker in an emergency.

I have attached a pic of my kit below (some items ommited).

Hope you enjoyed my rantings.

Food for thought.

G
 

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i reckon if your vehicle is summerged in water you wont be looking for a bag before getting out, i speak from experience as someone who has done dunker drills, you are to disoreintated, the first rule of survival is to survive then assess the situation.If you feel the need to carry survival gear it should be carried on you with each individual carrying there own, mine packs down small enough to do that, for shelter all you need is a gortex sheet and some paracord, food is not an issue you can last weeks without it but only days/ hours without water to that end i carry purification tabs and a button compass for navigation.
 
i reckon if your vehicle is summerged in water you wont be looking for a bag before getting out, i speak from experience as someone who has done dunker drills, you are to disoreintated, the first rule of survival is to survive then assess the situation.If you feel the need to carry survival gear it should be carried on you with each individual carrying there own, mine packs down small enough to do that, for shelter all you need is a gortex sheet and some paracord, food is not an issue you can last weeks without it but only days/ hours without water to that end i carry purification tabs and a button compass for navigation.

John, are you refering to sea survival courses? If you get into a situation that requires the above then yes, get out 1st. I dont think this applies to overland travel though as you are unlikely to submerge the vehicle so quickly.

Carrying survival equipment on you day in day out is not practical either. Minimal kit may suffice in the western world, but I would think you would need a little more travelling further afield. Signalling and communication may well be all you need.

Point well raised about food, not essential but good for moral and is not that bulky/heavy. High calorie foods required especially if walking distance. If I was travelling alone I would probably omit 20-30% of the above list, but travelling with females and/or children you have more to consider. The situation you may be able to handle, but how will others cope? a bit of food and warmth goes a long way.

I would guess my bag weighs in at under 5kg.

G
 
IR cyclumes are cheap n easy to come by, more chance of being spotted by chopper pilots with NVG at night
 
Solid knife (non folding) windup torch & Possibly a small wrist watch GPS in desert conditions if you need to walk out night time is the best time to do it. & satnav will allow you to check your on route.
 
John, are you refering to sea survival courses? If you get into a situation that requires the above then yes, get out 1st. I dont think this applies to overland travel though as you are unlikely to submerge the vehicle so quickly.

Carrying survival equipment on you day in day out is not practical either. Minimal kit may suffice in the western world, but I would think you would need a little more travelling further afield. Signalling and communication may well be all you need.

Point well raised about food, not essential but good for moral and is not that bulky/heavy. High calorie foods required especially if walking distance. If I was travelling alone I would probably omit 20-30% of the above list, but travelling with females and/or children you have more to consider. The situation you may be able to handle, but how will others cope? a bit of food and warmth goes a long way.

I would guess my bag weighs in at under 5kg.

G

Hi, im all for a bag to be kept in the vehicle for breakdowns etc, i was refering to fast acting emergency, for example- on your overland trip you cross a river the bed of the river is soft sand and the vehicle gets bogged down and starts to sink or the current starts to carry you down stream, now add to this 2 children and the missus, i know i wouldnt be taking time to un buckle a bag before attempting to get everybody on to dry land, so if were lucky everyone survived but the bag is lost with the vehicle so now you have no survival gear, the amount of stuff i refer to in my survival kit fits in a bum bag along with waterproof matches and a small metal mirror for signalling. I know this is an extreme example but serious emergencies usually are. Also if you have a minor emergency your advised to stay with your vehicle as it is far easier to spot and provides shade and shelter.
 
Hi, im all for a bag to be kept in the vehicle for breakdowns etc, i was refering to fast acting emergency, for example- on your overland trip you cross a river the bed of the river is soft sand and the vehicle gets bogged down and starts to sink or the current starts to carry you down stream, now add to this 2 children and the missus, i know i wouldnt be taking time to un buckle a bag before attempting to get everybody on to dry land, .

Gresham moments are thankfully few and far between. I'm sure the time taken to grab the bag as you reach over to grab the kid out of the rear seat, is unlikely to increase the danger by any significant level.
 
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Gresham moments are thankfully few and far between. I'm sure the time taken to grab the bag as you reach over to grab the kid out of the rear seat, is unlikely to increase the danger by any significant level.

there was an incident approx 8 years ago where a modified Land Rover went into a lake in this country the driver and his wife got out but all the kids didnt, this fella was prossicuted for manslaughter,due to the poor mechanical condition of his car, point being there isn't time to get the kids out let alone a bag, also when suddenly submerged in cold water you can experience cold water shock

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...and-Rover-crash-killed-his-four-children.html
 
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there was an incident approx 8 years ago where a modified Land Rover went into a lake in this country the driver and his wife got out but all the kids didnt, this fella was prossicuted for manslaughter,due to the poor mechanical condition of his car, point being there isn't time to get the kids out let alone a bag, also when suddenly submerged in cold water you can experience cold water shock

Father Nigel Gresham jailed after Land Rover crash killed his four children - Telegraph

it was last year and the one pikey was talking about.

Like I said, its a personal thing, so you could, if you have the space, leave the bag floating in the cab. its easier to grab then. As its just me and the girlfriend I dont mind fixing it out of the way with a quick release buckle.

fast flowing river crossings, carjacking, roll overs and vehicle fires were my main targets. sudden submersion would probably see me out 1st as im not a good swimmer :eek:

yes, stay with the vehicle, but sometimes that is not possible.

G
 
Just read this link. The military teach their aircrew that there are 4 priorities to survival:

Protection
Location
Water
Food


I also believe that there is a fifth - Luck!!

If you are going to "build" a bug out bag my best tip is know how to use the kit you have. I've seen loads of peolple over the years spending loads of money of really cool kit but not knowing how to use it!!! Also it has to be relevant to where you are - how useful is a machette in the middle of an arid and sandy desert??

Protection - shelter sheets are great, can be used for loads of things. My opinion is you definetly need one for the desert. The correct clothing is also vital; if you are stuck in the desert in shorts and a T shirt you are going to fry. Look at what the locals wear. Always have a sun hat in your pocket. Deserts get bloody cold at night - I've had to wear my puffa jacket and fleece at times - mind you these also double up as a pillow!!

Location - Several things are out there on the market from SAR beacons to heliographs. We use cylumes a lot, there are easy to use and do not take up much space. Tie an IR and white light one together and activate them; then tie a piece of cord to it and swing it around when you hear or see the rescue chopper - these things can be seen from about 2 km away. Have a fire lighting kit with you.

Water - You cannot live for long without water, therefore always have some in a grab bag. However water is heavy and if you have to move you will sweat it out carrying a lot of weight.

Food - lowest of the priorities but still important. Think about packing boiled sweets or some type of sweet that makes you salvate when you suck them. Diorolite (spelt wrong who cares) is good as well.

Other things to consider would be a map/GPS, your travel docs - god the list goes on and on. Consider is it better to stay put or walk out - very difficult question to answer as every situation is different.

Think about first aid as well - if you are in a survival situation you may well be injured. You may go into shock, your brain may play tricks on you. You will possibly panic. My tip is try to remain calm and make a plan.

Just consider what you are packing and make it relevant and hopefully you will never have to use it.

Billy

PS - been teaching this to aircrew for 15 years plus so i think I know what I'm talking about
 
Quite useful if Arabs are trying to Rob you... :D

Or if you have Gerber Gator you could use the serrated side to saw off your own leg if it was stuck under a rolled land rover... :D

Although I'm as usual not being completely serious, the second scenario is a valid point....

The Gerber Gator

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and bleed out in 5 minutes.:doh:
Read between a rock and a hard place.Only reason he didnt was cos he was so dehyrdated.
 
I have read it, that's where I got the idea. And when I cut my leg off with a saw, I certainly won't be doing it when I have a supply of food and water left, so I too will be dehydrated :D

Although to be honest I have had a good life, I might just go quietly to the other side rather than cut my own fooking leg off :D
 
FWIW, I have a small "Camelback" backpack that I always carry with me whenever we leave the car on foot in the bush (to be honest, I often manage to have someone else do the carrying... ). When picking animals' tracks, one never knows how long the walk will be - ten minutes or ten hours - or what will happen. The possibility of finding oneself all alone 50km deep into an unknown area for a few days is always there.

Here is what's in the bag:

- 1.5lt of water
- Dried meat (biltong), dried biscuits, nuts, dried fruits, something to chew on
- fire lighter
- emergency raincoat, emergency blanket, and a sheet of thin plastic big enough to make an emergency shelter
- 20 rounds of ammo
- knife sharpener
- compass
- a pair of socks

It's light enough and small enough to not be a burden, and there is enough stuff to see you through for a while (you'd need to find more water, though).
 
When I was in Afghan I had a bug out bag and my assult vest contained 6x 30 round magazines for my MP5, a military survival knife and space for a glock (that never turned up bastids!) water tablets, 2x tampons and a small first aid kit and insulation tape. My bag had approx 8 thousand dollars 4 bottles of water 2 MRE's and a few hersey bars.

Had my passport my MOI pass around my neck at all times. My phone with 2 sims (dependant on area) occasionally a sat phone. pattern 95 jacket and or sas smock wooley hat and assult gloves minus trigger finger.
 
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