L322 55 plate EWS, or not?

GDM · Mar 24, 2016

I am trying to get a spare key for our 55 plate Range Rover which only came with one key. The dealer wants £290. I have found someone who can do it way cheaper but the cost will depend on whether it uses EWS, or not. Apparently the later ID46 system without EWS is easier, and cheaper to do.

The car is the face-lift version. Does anyone know when they changed from using EWS?

Saint.V8 · Mar 24, 2016

If you have the touchscreen sat nav...I think you won't have the BMW EWS system fitted.

philip pickard · Mar 24, 2016

where is the guy who is doing the keys and whats the price if i can ask. thanks phil

GDM · Mar 24, 2016

Saint.V8 said:
If you have the touchscreen sat nav...I think you won't have the BMW EWS system fitted.

Yes, it has touch screen Sat Nav. The guy said he was fairly certain it would be ID46.

GDM · Mar 24, 2016

philip pickard said:
where is the guy who is doing the keys and whats the price if i can ask. thanks phil

In Walthamstow. If it has the ID46 system it is £65. If it is the EWS system and I remove the EWS unit £40, otherwise, if he removes it about £70.

It is probably best part of a 4 hour round trip for me but definitely worth it to save well over £200!

holidaychicken · Mar 25, 2016

Saint.V8 said:
If you have the touchscreen sat nav...I think you won't have the BMW EWS system fitted.

+1
EWS is 2002 - 2005 when owned by BMW, touch screen satnav was Jag introduction
Detail below from faultmate files
EWS 3D IMMOBILISER - Known Fitments
Vehicle makes, models and variants known or believed to be using this vehicle system, required diagnostic lead and degree of known compatibility.

Vehicle Make Vehicle Model Vehicle Variant Diagnostic Lead
Land Rover Range Rover MK III (L322) 2002-2005 Black OBDII Lead/LD020/LD021
Land Rover Freelander 2001 - 2003 Black OBDII Lead
Rover Rover 75 <2003 Black OBDII Lead
Rover Rover 75 Tourer <2003 Black OBDII Lead

GDM · Mar 25, 2016

holidaychicken said:
+1
EWS is 2002 - 2005 when owned by BMW, touch screen satnav was Jag introduction
Detail below from faultmate files
EWS 3D IMMOBILISER - Known Fitments
Vehicle makes, models and variants known or believed to be using this vehicle system, required diagnostic lead and degree of known compatibility.

Vehicle Make Vehicle Model Vehicle Variant Diagnostic Lead
Land Rover Range Rover MK III (L322) 2002-2005 Black OBDII Lead/LD020/LD021
Land Rover Freelander 2001 - 2003 Black OBDII Lead
Rover Rover 75 <2003 Black OBDII Lead
Rover Rover 75 Tourer <2003 Black OBDII Lead

Excellent! Thanks for that. Saves a lot of dismantling to get at the EWS unit.

quavey · Mar 25, 2016

GDM said:
I am trying to get a spare key for our 55 plate Range Rover which only came with one key. The dealer wants £290. I have found someone who can do it way cheaper but the cost will depend on whether it uses EWS, or not. Apparently the later ID46 system without EWS is easier, and cheaper to do.

The car is the face-lift version. Does anyone know when they changed from using EWS?

Just be totally sure he isnt going to just clone the existing key rather than make another one, its not a massive problem but I would say if you have two of one of the key numbers it will only let one be synchronized at the same time. Not a huge issue if you don't intend to use the two keys at the same time but if you were to have one each as a couple it would be a problem.

GDM · Mar 27, 2016

Went to get the key done this afternoon. It did have the ID46 system, so the chap was able to set up another one fairly easily. The only snag was that he couldn't actually cut the key blade. However, he did test the new chip in the original key case to check that it started the car. Just need to get the blade done now but as he charged me £65 and it will only be about £7 to do the blade, it is still a massive saving. I also got a new case with blade for £3, that I can swap my original key workings into because the buttons are getting rather worn.

Saint.V8 · Mar 27, 2016

I struggled to find somewhere that would cut a blade, and the one place that could was closed on the day I went to see them......gave up in the end, but I should get a spare key as I only have one!

philip pickard · Mar 27, 2016

i got mine cut at tesco, but they didnt want to do it at first. cause they said they didnt want me to go back if the key snapped in the barrel. so i said doni worry thats my fault if that happens.. so they then cut ut 12 quid

GDM · Mar 27, 2016

Saint.V8 said:
I struggled to find somewhere that would cut a blade, and the one place that could was closed on the day I went to see them......gave up in the end, but I should get a spare key as I only have one!

philip pickard said:
i got mine cut at tesco, but they didnt want to do it at first. cause they said they didnt want me to go back if the key snapped in the barrel. so i said doni worry thats my fault if that happens.. so they then cut ut 12 quid

The guy who programmed the key recommended a cutter just down the road that could do it for £7. I tried to find it but ran out of time, so I asked the chap in the Timsons at the Sainsburys where I had parked and he said the same thing about it snapping in the barrel and being responsible. There are about half a dozen key cutters near me, so I will try some of them on Tuesday.

Saint.V8 · Mar 27, 2016

Groovy, gives me more confidence to find one local to me then!

TVM

GDM · Mar 27, 2016

Saint.V8 said:
Groovy, gives me more confidence to find one local to me then!

Where in Surrey are you?

TVM

Saint.V8 · Mar 28, 2016

Bisley/brookwood area.

GDM · Mar 28, 2016

Saint.V8 said:
Bisley/brookwood area.

Ok. One of the key cutters I was going to try is in Haslemere, so not too far from you..

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