mark_waddy
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Hi everyone!
I have a 2019 Range Rover Vogue SE (3.0 SDV6). Bought the car as an ex management vehicle from a main dealer with 13k on the clock in September 2020. After having the car for around 3k miles, the brakes began to judder.
Note at this point I do not drive erratically, I tow a little but not a lot, motorway speeds I set the cruise at 75mph, always watch traffic and never hammer the anchors (I've got other cars for that!)
The car went back to the original dealer who replaced the front discs and pads 'as an act of goodwill'. I went away happy thinking "what lovely chaps they are at JLR".
6k miles later and the whole car is shaking under braking again. Driving style not changed in those 6k miles. Called the dealer again who took the car in (while having some other warranty work done). They told me that the brakes were a consumable item and that they were unable to offer any replacement. In fairness to the dealer they did log a complaint with JLR direct whos response was that they are a consumable item and they would not be covered. The dealer offered me 20% off of the £1200 cost of replacement for the entire set. At this point I politely declined and took the vehicle to someone I actually trusted.
Now, I did not opt for a set of genuine discs and pads (half knowing we would be seeing the issue again) so went for a set of aftermarket fronts. Again, within 3k miles the judder was back! The garage took the car back in and replaced the fronts free of charge under their own warranty with their supplier (no quibbles and not the sh!t you get from the main dealer!) They fully checked the run-out on all discs (rears as well) and found that they were all as flat as a pringle!
Queue another new set of fronts and this time the rears. Four brand new discs, four sets of pads, all sliders cleaned, lubed, all faces cleaned down for perfect fit. Run-outs done on all four corners and all were absolutely spot on! Problem solved; must've been the rears underperforming and causing the fronts to over-heat.
We are now 3k miles down the line..................... guess what! They are juddering again!!!! The warranty expires next week and Landrover called to see if I was renewing. I told them (verbatim) that I wouldn't give them the steam off of my p!ss, let along £2k for a years warranty which is seemingly pointless. I do know that JLR won't look at it without genuine discs on anyway so that part is futile.
The judder is from 45mph (ish) down to about 35mph. When the car is finally slowing (down to around 10mph) the brakes seem to 'grab' on and off a little (peddle pressure not changed) The garage ran a diagnostic on the ABS sensors and they showed no fault, neither did any of the other EBD or brake system sensors.
The car is booked back into the garage this week for a further investigation.
Has anyone got any idea at all what the hell the problem could be? Something is clearly nowhere near right here and I am genuinely baffled. I am mechanically minded (have been involved in cars, engines, tractors, diggers, equipment from a young age, so know my way around with a spanner). I have had 4nr Range Rovers (3 Vogues and a Sport) and never had anything like this (actually not even with any other cars!!).
Any thoughts or previous experience greatly appreciated.
I have a 2019 Range Rover Vogue SE (3.0 SDV6). Bought the car as an ex management vehicle from a main dealer with 13k on the clock in September 2020. After having the car for around 3k miles, the brakes began to judder.
Note at this point I do not drive erratically, I tow a little but not a lot, motorway speeds I set the cruise at 75mph, always watch traffic and never hammer the anchors (I've got other cars for that!)
The car went back to the original dealer who replaced the front discs and pads 'as an act of goodwill'. I went away happy thinking "what lovely chaps they are at JLR".
6k miles later and the whole car is shaking under braking again. Driving style not changed in those 6k miles. Called the dealer again who took the car in (while having some other warranty work done). They told me that the brakes were a consumable item and that they were unable to offer any replacement. In fairness to the dealer they did log a complaint with JLR direct whos response was that they are a consumable item and they would not be covered. The dealer offered me 20% off of the £1200 cost of replacement for the entire set. At this point I politely declined and took the vehicle to someone I actually trusted.
Now, I did not opt for a set of genuine discs and pads (half knowing we would be seeing the issue again) so went for a set of aftermarket fronts. Again, within 3k miles the judder was back! The garage took the car back in and replaced the fronts free of charge under their own warranty with their supplier (no quibbles and not the sh!t you get from the main dealer!) They fully checked the run-out on all discs (rears as well) and found that they were all as flat as a pringle!
Queue another new set of fronts and this time the rears. Four brand new discs, four sets of pads, all sliders cleaned, lubed, all faces cleaned down for perfect fit. Run-outs done on all four corners and all were absolutely spot on! Problem solved; must've been the rears underperforming and causing the fronts to over-heat.
We are now 3k miles down the line..................... guess what! They are juddering again!!!! The warranty expires next week and Landrover called to see if I was renewing. I told them (verbatim) that I wouldn't give them the steam off of my p!ss, let along £2k for a years warranty which is seemingly pointless. I do know that JLR won't look at it without genuine discs on anyway so that part is futile.
The judder is from 45mph (ish) down to about 35mph. When the car is finally slowing (down to around 10mph) the brakes seem to 'grab' on and off a little (peddle pressure not changed) The garage ran a diagnostic on the ABS sensors and they showed no fault, neither did any of the other EBD or brake system sensors.
The car is booked back into the garage this week for a further investigation.
Has anyone got any idea at all what the hell the problem could be? Something is clearly nowhere near right here and I am genuinely baffled. I am mechanically minded (have been involved in cars, engines, tractors, diggers, equipment from a young age, so know my way around with a spanner). I have had 4nr Range Rovers (3 Vogues and a Sport) and never had anything like this (actually not even with any other cars!!).
Any thoughts or previous experience greatly appreciated.
, maybe it was for all new genuine discs, pads , calliper's , shoes 
