cant turn engine over by hand

[paddocks1967]

Head gasket job

 

[paddocks1967]

Which job is worst,timing or head gasket,cheers pat.

 

[Saint.V8]

To take the head off you have to remove the timing gear anyway...!!

Only difference is if you just replace the timing chain, to can do it with moving anything, so the timing is pretty much spot on when it is replaced (unless of course the chain snapped/slipped, then it will need retiming anyway...)

 

[paddocks1967]

So i hope it is the chain then,going to start on the car tomorrow to see what score is

 

[Chrisfrain2007]

Question is, do u strip it all to check for damage ( I bet there will be if u can't turn jt by hand ) or Jus do the chain and hope ? ? ?

 

[paddocks1967]

I will be on tomorrow tolet you know no doubt about it haha

 

[paddocks1967]

Tell me this do i need to take radiator off to do timing chain.cheers pat

 

[wammers]

Tell me this do i need to take radiator off to do timing chain.cheers pat

Think it maybe advisible.

 

[Grit Valve]

when my timing chain was done you have to take sump off as the timing cover gasket is part of the sump gasket toogood luck with the camshaft guide/tension bolts these are terrible for corroding in place if the timing chain unlikely as would slacken not snap you might as well replace sprokets x3,x2 guides x2 chains x2 and tentioners if turning engine jams more likely a valve has broken thus preventing piston to do a full rotation

 

[paddocks1967]

Here,s hopeing,so i want the valved to have broken.cheers pat.

 

[Soloby Rob]

Here,s hopeing,so i want the valved to have broken.cheers pat.

If the timing chain has broken you will have valve damage so it's head off, you most likely will have other damage like crankshaft sprocket and chain casing etc.
Big job I'm afraid.

 

[paddocks1967]

Nice to know,let you know tomorrow

 

[Saint.V8]

Ive got manual,used it numiroys times its a p38,after all haha cheers pat.

Tell me this do i need to take radiator off to do timing chain.cheers pat

Thought you said you had the Manuals?? Best get a cup of tea and start having a read..

 

[wammers]

Think someone is about to realise this is not a DIY job unless you really know what your doing. Several special tools are needed also.

 

[Soloby Rob]

Think someone is about to realise this is not a DIY job unless you really know what your doing. Several special tools are needed also.

Oh! aye.

 

[wammers]

Oh! aye.

Oh! aye.

 

[paddocks1967]

Well lads the timing chain looks ok iam going to take injectors out,then the fuel injection pump before i start taking anymore off,only thing that bothers me before i take pump out how, do i go about keeping the timing,when i cant crank engine to tdc.cheers pat

 

[ovalandrover]

Take the injectors out try to turn it and if you get a fountain of coolant out of one of them your head gasket is crap or your block is cracked.

 

[Datatek]

Well lads the timing chain looks ok iam going to take injectors out,then the fuel injection pump before i start taking anymore off,only thing that bothers me before i take pump out how, do i go about keeping the timing,when i cant crank engine to tdc.cheers pat

Leave the FIP alone for the moment, might be worth taking the starter motor off in case that has broken up and jammed the flywheel.

 

[Grit Valve]

Surely if you have to take it apart then you would start from scratch crankshaft at tdc camshaft sprocket markins and the fip sprocket has marks to locate ??? You might of just had a sprocket slip on a lose chain due to tension as other suggestions starter out its a prosses of elimination