Other Warning - Windows May 2020 Update breaks RAVE

Guys,
In last few days my windoze laptop updated to the latest May 2020 update from Microsoft. I'm now seeing application crashes when launching two different RAVE ISO. So if you haven't updated yet, but use RAVE a lot, then wait before updating. I'm searching for a solution & will post it when I find one.

My Macbook version still works ok.

Pete

Ah, that may explain why we have had a few on here latterly having problems trying to use rave.

Windows 10????

mine works fine but not sure when last update.

J

If you still have version 1909 or earlier, then RAVE will work. Version 2004 breaks RAVE startup.

Go to Settings, then System, and scroll to bottom. Then click "About" & scroll down again.

Temporary fix is to rollback the update to previous version. https://howtofixwindows.com/rollback-windows-10-update/

It appears to be a problem with Acrobat.

Not sure what the problem is
But works for me

J

pwood999 said:

Guys,
In last few days my windoze laptop updated to the latest May 2020 update from Microsoft. I'm now seeing application crashes when launching two different RAVE ISO. So if you haven't updated yet, but use RAVE a lot, then wait before updating. I'm searching for a solution & will post it when I find one.

My Macbook version still works ok.

Pete

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F*cked my Start menu and a load of other stuff so I rolled it back and told it not to update for a month. Seems like it isn't just me so presumably they're working on a fix.

In the meantime I have gone over to Linux OpenSUSE. Refreshing simple and not at all intrusive.

@marjon yes the "one file" PDF version works on any Acrobat version, but doesn't have clickable indexes.

@Tenebreaux yes the problem does appear to be compatibility with Acrobat 4 that RAVe uses. I tried all sorts of compatibility modes in Windoze but no luck so far.

@Grrrrrr I might try the RAVE All Models version that I use on my MacBook with Linux. This one works with latest Acrobat on Mac, but in windows it gets repeated security & permissions errors because each section tries to open a different PDF file.

pwood999 said:

@marjon yes the "one file" PDF version works on any Acrobat version, but doesn't have clickable indexes.

@Tenebreaux yes the problem does appear to be compatibility with Acrobat 4 that RAVe uses. I tried all sorts of compatibility modes in Windoze but no luck so far.

@Grrrrrr I might try the RAVE All Models version that I use on my MacBook with Linux. This one works with latest Acrobat on Mac, but in windows it gets repeated security & permissions errors because each section tries to open a different PDF file.

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If I have time later I'll try swapping out the reader folder in RAVE with the latest one. I'm not sure how the exe calls on reader but it might work.

pwood999 said:

@marjon yes the "one file" PDF version works on any Acrobat version, but doesn't have clickable indexes.

@Tenebreaux yes the problem does appear to be compatibility with Acrobat 4 that RAVe uses. I tried all sorts of compatibility modes in Windoze but no luck so far.

@Grrrrrr I might try the RAVE All Models version that I use on my MacBook with Linux. This one works with latest Acrobat on Mac, but in windows it gets repeated security & permissions errors because each section tries to open a different PDF file.

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The version I have on Windows 10 was the version I installed on XP. I just copied the full folder across from the old C:\Program Files folder. Still uses the very old version of Adobe that installed along with it.

Just incase you are all still having issues...this is how I fixed mine:

Grrrrrr said:

F*cked my Start menu and a load of other stuff so I rolled it back and told it not to update for a month. Seems like it isn't just me so presumably they're working on a fix.

In the meantime I have gone over to Linux OpenSUSE. Refreshing simple and not at all intrusive.

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Download classic shell there is one for start up menu You need to run it every time you start your computer but sorts out the problem. Works well for me

Rubberknees said:

Download classic shell there is one for start up menu You need to run it every time you start your computer but sorts out the problem. Works well for me

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Worked it out in the end. It was the transparency setting. Presumably because I have a photo as a backdrop it just couldn't handle it.

Did the "compatibility mode" trick just now...RAVE is now all working again.
Thanks Ant and others for pointing me to the thread.

Got mine working earlier in the week thanks to Grrrrr and Rubberknees help.
XP compatibility wasn't doing it, but going to 98/Me compatibility in the context menu > Compatibility mode options did it.

Update for "RAVE All Models" version shared on my Google Drive link below.
Note: The fixes above still work for the older versions that use Acrobat-4.

The latest "Acrobat Reader 10" has a feature called "new experience" which causes the All Models version to crash on start up. To fix this turn off the "new experience" like this:



RAVE All Models Version (runs on win7, 8 & 10, plus MacOS)

**** Include your forum name when requesting, or no access ***

Pete

Thanks...!

pwood999 said:

Update for "RAVE All Models" version shared on my Google Drive link below.
Note: The fixes above still work for the older versions that use Acrobat-4.

The latest "Acrobat Reader 10" has a feature called "new experience" which causes the All Models version to crash on start up. To fix this turn off the "new experience" like this:

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RAVE All Models Version (runs on win7, 8 & 10, plus MacOS)

Pete

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I have 2 versions of RAVE, an early version that covers Freelander, Disco & P38 and the later version that covers Defender, P38 and early L322. I do not know exactly when as I don't use it every day, but a recent update to Win 10 has stopped the early version of RAVE working, luckily the later version still works. They both used to run in Win 98 compatibility mode on Win 10. Win 98 compatibility mode is no longer available since the update, just XP service pack 3, Vista, Win 7 & 8. Luckily, I have old XP systems available if I need to run it.

Many thanks for sharing @pwood999 Much appreciated.