Xenon headlamps

For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw some in a kind of review. Anyone used
them, they are a direct replacement for halogen type lamps.

Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?

Nige

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Nige wrote:
> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
> replacement for halogen type lamps.
> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"

IIRC Xenon is a halogen!

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"GbH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Nige wrote:
>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>
>> Nige
>>
>> --
>> Subaru WRX
>> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>>
>> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
>
> IIRC Xenon is a halogen!
>

I think you really knew what i meant didn't you?

> --
> If Your specification is vague or imprecise, you'll likely get what you
> asked for not what you wanted!
>
> He who says it cannot be done would be wise not to interrupt her doing
> it.
>

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw some in
> a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct replacement for
> halogen type lamps.
>
> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
Yes xenon/halogen lamps from halfrauds and reputable parts dealers
everywhere and IMO well worth the money. I found a real improvement I drive
home down unlit lanes .Look out for the double packs and save a few quid.Not
to be confused with HID xenon projectors ( or summat like that) which
aren't a direct replacement and are feckin dear.There is a test of major
brands posted somewhere on the web but for the life of me I can't find it I
think mine were branded 30+ but there are loads to go at.
Derek

Derek wrote:
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>
>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>
>> Nige
>>
>> --
>> Subaru WRX
>> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>>
>> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
> Yes xenon/halogen lamps from halfrauds and reputable parts dealers
> everywhere and IMO well worth the money. I found a real improvement I
> drive home down unlit lanes .Look out for the double packs and save a
> few quid.Not to be confused with HID xenon projectors ( or summat
> like that) which aren't a direct replacement and are feckin
> dear.There is a test of major brands posted somewhere on the web but
> for the life of me I can't find it I think mine were branded 30+ but
> there are loads to go at. Derek

Yeah, i have done some research, HID are totally different, my wifes Golf Gti has them. Anyone know what
H number a RRC LSE would take? H7 possibly?

Cheers Derek

Nige


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Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Derek wrote:
>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>>
>>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>>
>>> Nige
>>>
>>> --
>>> Subaru WRX
>>> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>>>
>>> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
>> Yes xenon/halogen lamps from halfrauds and reputable parts dealers
>> everywhere and IMO well worth the money. I found a real improvement I
>> drive home down unlit lanes .Look out for the double packs and save a
>> few quid.Not to be confused with HID xenon projectors ( or summat
>> like that) which aren't a direct replacement and are feckin
>> dear.There is a test of major brands posted somewhere on the web but
>> for the life of me I can't find it I think mine were branded 30+ but
>> there are loads to go at. Derek
>
> Yeah, i have done some research, HID are totally different, my wifes Golf
> Gti has them. Anyone know what H number a RRC LSE would take? H7 possibly?
>
> Cheers Derek
>
> Nige
>
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
No unless they changed em after '89 H4's I think you will find it embossed
on the metal cap if you pull one out (oo-er missus)
Derek

On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:28, Nige [[email protected]]
wrote in message <[email protected]>

> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw some in
> a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct replacement for
> halogen type lamps.
>
> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?

Too good. :-(
Oncoming traffic with normal headlights will struggle to see where they're
going.

If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all around
you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the worse oncoming
drivers can see.

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PDannyD wrote:
> On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:28, Nige
> [[email protected]] wrote in message
> <[email protected]>
>
>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>
>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>
> Too good. :-(
> Oncoming traffic with normal headlights will struggle to see where
> they're going.
>
> If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all
> around you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the
> worse oncoming drivers can see.

There speaks a man driving a Series LR with sealed beams of half a candle
power each.

Huw

"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> PDannyD wrote:
>> On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:28, Nige
>> [[email protected]] wrote in message
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>>
>>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>
>> Too good. :-(
>> Oncoming traffic with normal headlights will struggle to see where
>> they're going.
>>
>> If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all
>> around you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the
>> worse oncoming drivers can see.
>
> There speaks a man driving a Series LR with sealed beams of half a candle
> power each.

Not necessarily just affecting those with sealed-candle lamps , there is an
ever-increasing trend amongst youthful car owners in particular to "upgrade"
their headlights with easily obtainable HID Xenon kits, problem is, it's
illegal! It is a legal requirement under construction and use regs that
Xenon HID lights must be automatically controlled for height via sensors in
the vehicles suspension, to prevent dazzle to oncoming traffic under all
conditions. I've had it out with 2 such local "chav's" and got them to go
and have them adjusted correctly, allbeit under the threat of a damn good
kicking if they dazzled me again!!
I've also failed cars presented for MOT's with them, for incorrect beam
pattern, normally no pattern at all. Very dangerous for other road users.
I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would actually take
an interest and do something about it instead of sitting drinking tea all
night.
Badger.

On Sunday 27 November 2005 16:43, Huw [hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk] wrote
in message <[email protected]>

> PDannyD wrote:
>> On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:28, Nige
>> [[email protected]] wrote in message
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>>
>>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>
>> Too good. :-(
>> Oncoming traffic with normal headlights will struggle to see where
>> they're going.
>>
>> If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all
>> around you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the
>> worse oncoming drivers can see.
>
> There speaks a man driving a Series LR with sealed beams of half a candle
> power each.



Aye. Actually they're not bad headlights, just the standard non-dazzling and
well-adjusted kind.

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....and PDannyD spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

> If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all
> around you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the
> worse oncoming drivers can see.

Good point. People drive on high beam (or with maladjusted driving lamps)
regardless of oncoming drivers and think because they can see OK it must be
safer for them. In fact, if I am driving 2 tonnes of Landy towards you and
I can't see where I am going because of your lights, you may think that I
present a considerable hazard to your health.

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==============================
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"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw some in
> a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct replacement for
> halogen type lamps.
>
> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
>

Got some for my disco from halfords, they the doing a buy one get one free
offer, £12 for two. they do seem to give a much whiter light than standard
bulbs.

Badger wrote:

> I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would actually take
> an interest and do something about it instead of sitting drinking tea all
> night.

That's a glolbal problem Badger - exactly the same at this end of the world.


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"PDannyD" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> On Sunday 27 November 2005 16:43, Huw [hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk] wrote
> in message <[email protected]>
>
>> PDannyD wrote:
>>> On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:28, Nige
>>> [[email protected]] wrote in message
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> For a RRC, I was reading this months Practical Classics mag & saw
>>>> some in a kind of review. Anyone used them, they are a direct
>>>> replacement for halogen type lamps.
>>>>
>>>> Any idea where I can buy two & how good they are etc?
>>>
>>> Too good. :-(
>>> Oncoming traffic with normal headlights will struggle to see where
>>> they're going.
>>>
>>> If you do go for exceedingly bright lights then for the sake of all
>>> around you get them adjusted properly. The better you can see, the
>>> worse oncoming drivers can see.
>>
>> There speaks a man driving a Series LR with sealed beams of half a candle
>> power each.
>
>
>
> Aye. Actually they're not bad headlights, just the standard non-dazzling
> and
> well-adjusted kind.
>

Since the dip beam pattern is exceptionally ill-defined then the only reason
they don't dazzle is that a candle has as much light.

Huw

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Badger wrote:
>
>> I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would actually
>> take an interest and do something about it instead of sitting drinking
>> tea all night.
>
> That's a glolbal problem Badger - exactly the same at this end of the
> world.

The local "chav's" up here in the North of Scotland sit occasionally (whilst
not creating a mobile nuisance!) in a car park right next door to plod, the
only time plod takes any notice at all is if they are walking (very rare!)
past and the music is too loud.
They run around the town with either no lights, sidelights, or side and fog
lights under the misguided belief that it is cool. I nearly collected one in
the side of the disco a few weeks ago, he appeared out of nowhere at a
ridiculous speed (well over the legal 30, let alone a safer 20!) with
sidelights only, preventing me from seeing him approaching as I pulled very
slowly and carefully out of a blind junction in the middle of the town!
Plod allegedly introduced a no-nonsense get-tough scheme recently, according
to the local rag the toerags would get one warning then be charged and if
they persisted their vehicles could be confiscated. All the sensible locals
thought "about time", that was 2 months ago and nothing has changed, other
than the tea consumption rate in the piggery due to the colder weather
recently! I told the pigs about the one I almost collected, and the response
was nothing more than the standard "Ah well, unless we actually catch them,
there's not an awful lot we can do". He objected to my response of "Well,
get off your arses and get out there then and you might actually have a cat
in hell's chance of catching them!", attempting to have a go at me for my
attitude. My further response was "Do your bloody job that my taxes are
paying for then, if you don't like my attitude look in a mirror, what are
you going to do, arrest me for exercising my legal right to free speech?"
and with that, walked out the door. But it's comforting to know that if my
local pub serves me with a beer after the legally permitted licensing laws
allow, they'll take his alcohol licence from him in the interests of public
safety!!!!! And the coppers wonder why they get little or no respect
anymore..... lazy gits!
Badger.

Badger wrote:
> "EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Badger wrote:
>>
>>> I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would
>>> actually take an interest and do something about it instead of
>>> sitting drinking tea all night.
>>
>> That's a glolbal problem Badger - exactly the same at this end of the
>> world.
>
> The local "chav's" up here in the North of Scotland sit occasionally
> (whilst not creating a mobile nuisance!) in a car park right next
> door to plod, the only time plod takes any notice at all is if they
> are walking (very rare!) past and the music is too loud.
> They run around the town with either no lights, sidelights, or side
> and fog lights under the misguided belief that it is cool. I nearly
> collected one in the side of the disco a few weeks ago, he appeared
> out of nowhere at a ridiculous speed (well over the legal 30, let
> alone a safer 20!) with sidelights only, preventing me from seeing
> him approaching as I pulled very slowly and carefully out of a blind
> junction in the middle of the town! Plod allegedly introduced a
> no-nonsense get-tough scheme recently, according to the local rag the
> toerags would get one warning then be charged and if they persisted
> their vehicles could be confiscated. All the sensible locals thought
> "about time", that was 2 months ago and nothing has changed, other
> than the tea consumption rate in the piggery due to the colder
> weather recently! I told the pigs about the one I almost collected,
> and the response was nothing more than the standard "Ah well, unless
> we actually catch them, there's not an awful lot we can do". He
> objected to my response of "Well, get off your arses and get out
> there then and you might actually have a cat in hell's chance of
> catching them!", attempting to have a go at me for my attitude. My
> further response was "Do your bloody job that my taxes are paying for
> then, if you don't like my attitude look in a mirror, what are you
> going to do, arrest me for exercising my legal right to free speech?"
> and with that, walked out the door. But it's comforting to know that
> if my local pub serves me with a beer after the legally permitted
> licensing laws allow, they'll take his alcohol licence from him in
> the interests of public safety!!!!! And the coppers wonder why they
> get little or no respect anymore..... lazy gits! Badger.

LOL, you sound so much like me it's untrue!
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Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:43:03 -0000, Nige wrote:

> Yeah, i have done some research, HID are totally different, ...

Quite, HID is High Intensity Discharge. That is they are a form of arc
lamp and need special control gear to start and run them. You cannot
simply swap the bulb and magically get HID lights.

You can get "uprated" or "xenon" ordinary halogen filament bulbs with
blue paint one 'em to make your lights look like HID but that strikes
me as remarkedly pointless. Why generate light then filter some of it
out?

"Xenon" bulbs without the blue coating may offer more lumens per watt
but there is an awful lot of FUD out there.

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"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Badger wrote:
>> "EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Badger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would
>>>> actually take an interest and do something about it instead of
>>>> sitting drinking tea all night.
>>>
>>> That's a glolbal problem Badger - exactly the same at this end of the
>>> world.
>>
>> The local "chav's" up here in the North of Scotland sit occasionally
>> (whilst not creating a mobile nuisance!) in a car park right next
>> door to plod, the only time plod takes any notice at all is if they
>> are walking (very rare!) past and the music is too loud.
>> They run around the town with either no lights, sidelights, or side
>> and fog lights under the misguided belief that it is cool. I nearly
>> collected one in the side of the disco a few weeks ago, he appeared
>> out of nowhere at a ridiculous speed (well over the legal 30, let
>> alone a safer 20!) with sidelights only, preventing me from seeing
>> him approaching as I pulled very slowly and carefully out of a blind
>> junction in the middle of the town! Plod allegedly introduced a
>> no-nonsense get-tough scheme recently, according to the local rag the
>> toerags would get one warning then be charged and if they persisted
>> their vehicles could be confiscated. All the sensible locals thought
>> "about time", that was 2 months ago and nothing has changed, other
>> than the tea consumption rate in the piggery due to the colder
>> weather recently! I told the pigs about the one I almost collected,
>> and the response was nothing more than the standard "Ah well, unless
>> we actually catch them, there's not an awful lot we can do". He
>> objected to my response of "Well, get off your arses and get out
>> there then and you might actually have a cat in hell's chance of
>> catching them!", attempting to have a go at me for my attitude. My
>> further response was "Do your bloody job that my taxes are paying for
>> then, if you don't like my attitude look in a mirror, what are you
>> going to do, arrest me for exercising my legal right to free speech?"
>> and with that, walked out the door. But it's comforting to know that
>> if my local pub serves me with a beer after the legally permitted
>> licensing laws allow, they'll take his alcohol licence from him in
>> the interests of public safety!!!!! And the coppers wonder why they
>> get little or no respect anymore..... lazy gits! Badger.
>
> LOL, you sound so much like me it's untrue!

Unfortunately, when I get the bit between my teeth about something that's
annoying me, I tend to get carried away. Ah well, I s'pose it's best I let
off steam this way rather than baseball-batting their bloody foglights! ;-)
Badger.

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Badger wrote:
>>> "EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Badger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just wish the totally useless local lazy bastard pigs would
>>>>> actually take an interest and do something about it instead of
>>>>> sitting drinking tea all night.
>>>>
>>>> That's a glolbal problem Badger - exactly the same at this end of the
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> The local "chav's" up here in the North of Scotland sit occasionally
>>> (whilst not creating a mobile nuisance!) in a car park right next
>>> door to plod, the only time plod takes any notice at all is if they
>>> are walking (very rare!) past and the music is too loud.
>>> They run around the town with either no lights, sidelights, or side
>>> and fog lights under the misguided belief that it is cool. I nearly
>>> collected one in the side of the disco a few weeks ago, he appeared
>>> out of nowhere at a ridiculous speed (well over the legal 30, let
>>> alone a safer 20!) with sidelights only, preventing me from seeing
>>> him approaching as I pulled very slowly and carefully out of a blind
>>> junction in the middle of the town! Plod allegedly introduced a
>>> no-nonsense get-tough scheme recently, according to the local rag the
>>> toerags would get one warning then be charged and if they persisted
>>> their vehicles could be confiscated. All the sensible locals thought
>>> "about time", that was 2 months ago and nothing has changed, other
>>> than the tea consumption rate in the piggery due to the colder
>>> weather recently! I told the pigs about the one I almost collected,
>>> and the response was nothing more than the standard "Ah well, unless
>>> we actually catch them, there's not an awful lot we can do". He
>>> objected to my response of "Well, get off your arses and get out
>>> there then and you might actually have a cat in hell's chance of
>>> catching them!", attempting to have a go at me for my attitude. My
>>> further response was "Do your bloody job that my taxes are paying for
>>> then, if you don't like my attitude look in a mirror, what are you
>>> going to do, arrest me for exercising my legal right to free speech?"
>>> and with that, walked out the door. But it's comforting to know that
>>> if my local pub serves me with a beer after the legally permitted
>>> licensing laws allow, they'll take his alcohol licence from him in
>>> the interests of public safety!!!!! And the coppers wonder why they
>>> get little or no respect anymore..... lazy gits! Badger.
>>
>> LOL, you sound so much like me it's untrue!
>
> Unfortunately, when I get the bit between my teeth about something that's
> annoying me, I tend to get carried away. Ah well, I s'pose it's best I let
> off steam this way rather than baseball-batting their bloody foglights!
> ;-)
> Badger.
>

hehe - exactly

Dave Liquorice wrote:

> "Xenon" bulbs without the blue coating may offer more lumens per watt
> but there is an awful lot of FUD out there.

They do - somewhere between 30 and 50% greater light output for the same
energy consumption.


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