winch rope

chico929 · Sep 30, 2009

The cable on my winch looks a bit rough. Its badly wound on with frayed end and single wire `spurs` hanging off just waiting to rip flesh!
I will unravel it, check it over and rewind it on tidily but.......
I really would like to replace it.
A plasma rope has been suggested but is hard to find on ebay by that name. Is it also known as polypropylene rope?
Any one tracked down the most competitive price for these?
Cheers.

G-man · Sep 30, 2009

dyneema bow rope, and i wouldn't get it off eblag i would go to a reputable dealer

Griffdowg · Sep 30, 2009

I would just buy a new steel one for £20

G

sypher · Sep 30, 2009

just buy a new one

, if your thinking of plasma rope you'll have to change your fairlead for a non roller type .

wiltshire landyman · Oct 1, 2009

dont buy from winchit on ebay they are rubbish ropes weve snapped 2 of them..i now have a dyneema rope from goodwinch..£217 for 11.5mm 100ft

ratty · Oct 1, 2009

I'd stick with a steel rope. Much more robust and much cheaper.

wiltshire landyman · Oct 1, 2009

ratty said:
I'd stick with a steel rope. Much more robust and much cheaper.

there great if your an rac man or have a flatbed recovery lorry and want to winch on a car.

but in the real world in an offroading recovery situation imo are down right dangerous,i have seen one snap and it would take any part of your body clean off if you happen to be in its path.ive seen one snap and the end that had the shackle on went straight thru a rrc rear window and hit the front window,there nast horrible things,ask any compitition boys who uses a steel rope..pretty much nill

ratty · Oct 1, 2009

wiltshire landyman said:
there great if your an rac man or have a flatbed recovery lorry and want to winch on a car.

but in the real world in an offroading recovery situation imo are down right dangerous,i have seen one snap and it would take any part of your body clean off if you happen to be in its path.ive seen one snap and the end that had the shackle on went straight thru a rrc rear window and hit the front window,there nast horrible things,ask any compitition boys who uses a steel rope..pretty much nill

In the real world of offroad recovery you would have fitted a winch blanket and a snatch block to slow the cable and to send it to ground, therefore preventing the breaking of the rear window. You would also hear the strain that the cable was under long before it snapped unless the cable was not properly cared for and had rotted away from the inside out. In either scenario it would be human error and not the rope at fault.

Ask any proffesional rescue technician who uses a bow rope......definately nil.

G-man · Oct 1, 2009

wiltshire landyman said:
there great if your an rac man or have a flatbed recovery lorry and want to winch on a car.

but in the real world in an offroading recovery situation imo are down right dangerous,i have seen one snap and it would take any part of your body clean off if you happen to be in its path.ive seen one snap and the end that had the shackle on went straight thru a rrc rear window and hit the front window,there nast horrible things,ask any compitition boys who uses a steel rope..pretty much nill

if correctly maintained they are good its people who use old rusty ones and fail to inspect them regularly that normally have them snap

Griffdowg · Oct 1, 2009

wiltshire landyman said:
there great if your an rac man or have a flatbed recovery lorry and want to winch on a car.

but in the real world in an offroading recovery situation imo are down right dangerous,i have seen one snap and it would take any part of your body clean off if you happen to be in its path.ive seen one snap and the end that had the shackle on went straight thru a rrc rear window and hit the front window,there nast horrible things,ask any compitition boys who uses a steel rope..pretty much nill

Was a winch sail used to dampen the kinetic energy? The only reason it would do that is if there wasnt a sail of coat or something over the line. Which you should also do with synthetic rope as they store kinetic energy to and will whip to some degree.

The comp guys dont use steel for many many more reasons over the likelyhood of rope failier.

firsty its lighter. when your spooling out 20 times a day, you dont want to be hauling heavy steel. secondly, you dont need to spool it in to the winch each time. This makes it quicker in a comp as you just wrap it up on the bumper. thirdly, no sharp splinters when your hands are moving over the rope so fast you cant see what your doing. floats on water, bonus? 1st and 2nd points are probably the main reason.

reasons against: dont like mud/salt/oils. can become easily contaminated, needs washing/cleaning often. UV degredation, not a problem here, but 12 months in Namibia is likely to take its toll

cost is the last factor. the comp boys change their ropes every handfull of events. why? wear and tear, abused, muddy? can you afford to change it every 12months say?

Just my thoughts.

G

wiltshire landyman · Oct 1, 2009

still wouldnt use one..
i feel a lot safer knowing that my head will stay intact with my body if my dyneema breaks.
although some may say it may improve my looks

wiltshire landyman · Oct 1, 2009

Griffdowg said:
Was a winch sail used to dampen the kinetic energy? The only reason it would do that is if there wasnt a sail of coat or something over the line. Which you should also do with synthetic rope as they store kinetic energy to and will whip to some degree.

The comp guys dont use steel for many many more reasons over the likelyhood of rope failier.

firsty its lighter. when your spooling out 20 times a day, you dont want to be hauling heavy steel. secondly, you dont need to spool it in to the winch each time. This makes it quicker in a comp as you just wrap it up on the bumper. thirdly, no sharp splinters when your hands are moving over the rope so fast you cant see what your doing. floats on water, bonus? 1st and 2nd points are probably the main reason.

reasons against: dont like mud/salt/oils. can become easily contaminated, needs washing/cleaning often. UV degredation, not a problem here, but 12 months in Namibia is likely to take its toll cost is the last factor. the comp boys change their ropes every handfull of events. why? wear and tear, abused, muddy? can you afford to change it every 12months say?

Just my thoughts.

G

all valid points..
i often just wrap me rope around my abar as i know that in 5 mins time at the next punch im likely to want it again

Griffdowg · Oct 1, 2009

wiltshire landyman said:
all valid points..
i often just wrap me rope around my abar as i know that in 5 mins time at the next punch im likely to want it again

yer, somehow i dont think chico here is a winch/rtv competition kind of guy

but if he wants to spend money for old rope... go ahead

G

wiltshire landyman · Oct 1, 2009

so basically there pros/cons for both steel/plasma

for me plasma works in the challenge events and wire wouldnt

ratty · Oct 1, 2009

wiltshire landyman said:
so basically there pros/cons for both steel/plasma

Yep

for me plasma works in the challenge events and wire wouldnt

For me wire works in a proffesional capacity where plasma wouldn't.

The Mad Hat Man · Oct 1, 2009

proffesional ?

ratty · Oct 1, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
proffesional ?

:blabla::blabla::blabla: professional.

Happy now.

If I cood spell propper like wot you duz I'd work indoors in the warm, have a sexy secretary and get paid twice as much munny woodent I?

The Mad Hat Man · Oct 1, 2009

wot????????

at Halfrauds? No chance

ratty · Oct 1, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
wot????????

at Halfrauds? No chance

Sorry. I wuz getting confused.

I thought you wuz working at the old folks home. I forgot you wuz a resident instead.

The Mad Hat Man · Oct 1, 2009

yu is spending too much time with Buckshot!!

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