Why do manufacturers not fit.....

trax said:

Will it? There will be less of a demand for petrol so prices will increase as they can't work on high volumes. Petrol stations will shut or change to leccy, etc, etc.

This won't happen for many many moons though

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Course it will, supply and demand, petrol will become a by product of the oil industries and whilst I suspect it would still be taxed highly the demand for oil would be down and as such the prices would be down... like you say many moons yet...

Jongould said:

because its a stupid idea, cars aren't designed to work in water, thats what boats are for, next it will be 'why aren't boats designed with wheels for when theres not enough water'...

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I'm sure most people here use snorkels. But if you have a 90, say, without one (many people do) and just happen to push it a little bit too far when crossing water one day - it happens, nobody's perfect - then you stand to lose your whole engine to water - needlessly.

I'm talking about a simple cheap mechanical safeguard. If you take the absolute **** and steam at full throttle into a lake, then you're done for anyway - I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about falling the wrong side of a fine line.

What about if the integrity of your snorkel fails without you noticing and lets in water the day you attempt to cross some water? Yes, the engine will stop anyway - the difference is that it won't be a complete write off. You can recover it and restart it. How is that a stupid idea?

RAGNAR BENSON said:

I'm sure most people here use snorkels. But if you have a 90, say, without one (many people do) and just happen to push it a little bit too far when crossing water one day - it happens, nobody's perfect - then you stand to lose your whole engine to water - needlessly.

I'm talking about a simple cheap mechanical safeguard. If you take the absolute **** and steam at full throttle into a lake, then you're done for anyway - I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about falling the wrong side of a fine line.

What about if the integrity of your snorkel fails without you noticing and lets in water the day you attempt to cross some water? Yes, the engine will stop anyway - the difference is that it won't be a complete write off. You can recover it and restart it. How is that a stupid idea?

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I know it's been done before but I don't reckon this machine needs one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTDn604ipYY

Soloby Rob said:

I know it's been done before but I don't reckon this machine needs one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTDn604ipYY

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I want it.

RAGNAR BENSON said:

I'm sure most people here use snorkels. But if you have a 90, say, without one (many people do) and just happen to push it a little bit too far when crossing water one day - it happens, nobody's perfect - then you stand to lose your whole engine to water - needlessly.

I'm talking about a simple cheap mechanical safeguard. If you take the absolute **** and steam at full throttle into a lake, then you're done for anyway - I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about falling the wrong side of a fine line.

What about if the integrity of your snorkel fails without you noticing and lets in water the day you attempt to cross some water? Yes, the engine will stop anyway - the difference is that it won't be a complete write off. You can recover it and restart it. How is that a stupid idea?

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The intake system is a vacuum, any device to be lifted by water would simply get sucked in, to have enough force to stop it getting sucked in would keep it under water, you then have to think that air gettin in isnt the only issue, electrics get wet and conk the engine out also so where would it stop? Hydralocking isn't a common issue and trying to cure this non existent issue would cost money, money the buyer has to pay, even if it was an option no one would be willing to pay, that doesn't take into account maintanance, would you trust a device that has gone ten years without being needed?


Bottom line is its not needed, the reality is there isn't a problem, only the few cars you have seen in the new are an issue out of the millions on the road

If it was to work it would have to be dam fast

A float wouldn't work, it's gonna go off on every bump

You can get electronic sensors that can sense liquids but I'm not sure how quickly they react

As for stopping the engine by closing the air off, it's not good for it but it does work, I work with engines that use them every day

Jongould said:

The intake system is a vacuum, any device to be lifted by water would simply get sucked in, to have enough force to stop it getting sucked in would keep it under water, you then have to think that air gettin in isnt the only issue, electrics get wet and conk the engine out also so where would it stop? Hydralocking isn't a common issue and trying to cure this non existent issue would cost money, money the buyer has to pay, even if it was an option no one would be willing to pay, that doesn't take into account maintanance, would you trust a device that has gone ten years without being needed?


Bottom line is its not needed, the reality is there isn't a problem, only the few cars you have seen in the new are an issue out of the millions on the road

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A wet/dry vacuum cleaner has this device already installed, it's simply a ball that rises with the water level and cuts off the vacuum when it rises to the top.
As for motor vehicles I kindly refer you to post two.

Sorry I cant take this seriously

Whats wrong with waders and a stick?

What about spraying yeh air filter with scotch guard

Oh you silly old sausages!

It's a magnificent idea and you know it is! :mil43:

RAGNAR BENSON said:

Oh you silly old sausages!

It's a magnificent idea and you know it is! :mil43:

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You try it first and let me know how you get on as my snorkels leaking like a bastid

I can not belive NO ONE has said its already been done, Those fancy air intakes on the side of newer ( 300Tdi I think) MOD wagons have a float in them Nowt new just fooking expensive.

dave18 said:

I can not belive NO ONE has said its already been done, Those fancy air intakes on the side of newer ( 300Tdi I think) MOD wagons have a float in them Nowt new just fooking expensive.

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You sure? I thought they were sand filters for desert warfare, all the MOD rovers round here still use snorkels...

dave18 said:

I can not belive NO ONE has said its already been done, Those fancy air intakes on the side of newer ( 300Tdi I think) MOD wagons have a float in them Nowt new just fooking expensive.

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Hi,

Any links to further information on this would be appreciated. I've just had a search, but found nothing.

dave18 said:

I can not belive NO ONE has said its already been done, Those fancy air intakes on the side of newer ( 300Tdi I think) MOD wagons have a float in them Nowt new just fooking expensive.

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RAGNAR BENSON said:

Hi,

Any links to further information on this would be appreciated. I've just had a search, but found nothing.

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See post two.