Warning facelift owners!!!!

yep but do they do the full wraparound for the disco2?

One of the contributing factors which must be considered here, and it's also a major difference between pre and post facelift Disco 2 headlights is that the radiator grille and the entire facelift headlight unit must be withdrawn from the front of the vehicle in order to replace a faulty bulb.

Consequently any kind of frontal protection such as wrap-around bars have to be reasonably quickly and easily dismountable to allow access. Nobody wants to spend all weekend stripping off the front bars and then replacing them just to change a blown bulb.

brian47 said:

One of the contributing factors which must be considered here, and it's also a major difference between pre and post facelift Disco 2 headlights is that the radiator grille and the entire facelift headlight unit must be withdrawn from the front of the vehicle in order to replace a faulty bulb.

Consequently any kind of frontal protection such as wrap-around bars have to be reasonably quickly and easily dismountable to allow access. Nobody wants to spend all weekend stripping off the front bars and then replacing them just to change a blown bulb.

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their you have a point and i must admit my full wrap around is bloody heavy,

ron.:fencing:

it's quite easy to improvise one... you need two brackets and two N/C contact microswitch, fit them with the brackets so to be depressed by touching the lamps from behind, wired in parallel to the bonnet switch...when the alarm is armed and somebody moves the headlamp the alarm will go off... would be a quite noisy environment for the thief...though this will not stop him to take them if he has strong nervs

As has already been said, people will buy anything off ebay if they can save a few bob, regardless of the source.

I think D2 owners started it off with so many converting their cars to facelift headlights, even though they were outside the VIN number for them.

It's only the converters that fuel the trade.

Peter

Hi guys,

Great news to hear some reporting is under way, and a collaborative between all the forums seems like a good idea too.

Can we work towards a deterrent as well? Bare with me here...

The plastic lamp guards. I've always been amazed by the price for what they are, but that's another rant.

Can someone not fabricate the exact shape out of metal ( same shape for mot purposes) but where it wraps round the sides of the lights it extends back further into the engine bay, where in turn it is some how secured?

Andy345 said:

Can someone not fabricate the exact shape out of metal ( same shape for mot purposes) but where it wraps round the sides of the lights it extends back further into the engine bay, where in turn it is some how secured?

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Be cheaper to cough up for new lights from main dealer!! But nice idea .

Really!?!

I mean I don't know the price of main dealer lights but even sticking to eBay prices, once you've made a prototype and 2nd, 3rd, 4th and eventually got it down to a T. Surely the bit would be worth it to mass produce so to speak.

I'd say it more an issue of time and money to start with, but after that...

Designing and making something to sell is an expensive process, I do it every day . If someone wants to put the work in that would be great, but it'd be easier to pay the £450 quid at stratters.

Lots of threads here on this problem now.

I recently posted on one of them that I have designed a set of brackets that will make theft harder and cannot be bolt cropped or accessed without opening the bonnet.

My drawings are currently with Baumont Land Rovers of Wainstalls near Halifax being costed for manufacture. It might be worth contacting Howard to see if he has made any progress or will let you have a set of the drawings.

If he decides not to go ahead with selling either the brackets or the drawings, I intend to put them on this site and any other similar site so anyone can get them for nowt.

Very altruistic, and a mighty fine idea!

I just like to give bad people a bad day in whatever small way I can.

Search out the other threads on this subject (there are quite a few here) and read my longer post on the subject.

I have designed a full kit which greatly improves headlight security. As soon as I hear back from the patent office, I will be trying to market the kit. I am already making parts of the kits so I have stock. And before any one asks, bolt croppers will he no use at all against this kit.

Ooo Dear!

I never meant to tread on anyones toes with this, but I am afraid that events are already overtaking you Dave.

Sorry if that causes offence, it's not meant to. I just hate thieves and want to make their miserable little lives as hard as possible.

Like your system, mine too are resistant to bolt croppers and can be knocked up in the shed over a sunday.

What's more, if my contact in the trade does not wish to produce them I will be posting my drawings for free so that anyone can make them, as they really are pretty easy to make.

Not sure exactly what your system is or whether it is even remotely like mine, but I am doubtful that you could be able to put a patent on "a device to prevent Land Rover Discovery 2 Facelift headlights from being stolen". It sounds too much like trying to patent a car burglar alarm.

I suggest that you should seek advice from your local chamber of commerce before going too far down the patent route.

No offence taken. It all depends on what level of secutity is offered. Nothing wrong with good idea and a bit of direct competition.