Tyre rotation

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goonarmy said:
But cos im all rufty tufty and burly that getting under it to lift it from the centre of the rear axle is a ****ter.
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There's jacking points at the sides both front and rear on the pic I looked at in the manwell.
 
Hippo said:
There's jacking points at the sides both front and rear on the pic I looked at in the manwell.
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The rear ones are behind the wheels. Its easier to jack on the centre. I say easier i mean its not totally impossible.
 
Datatek said:
It's a good idea on all 4WD to rotate front to back to even up wear, on a lot of vehicles with a VCU for RWD such as the Nissan **** trail the warrenty is void on the VCU if the difference in tyre wear front to back is noticable.
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Eh? They have an electronic clutch for the AWD on the front of the rear diff... ;)
 
goonarmy said:
The rear ones are behind the wheels. Its easier to jack on the centre. I say easier i mean its not totally impossible.
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To me it looks like the rear lifting points are inside the front part of the rear wheels. Not sure if it changed during the differing model years.
 
Spacemonkey... said:
Eh? They have an electronic clutch for the AWD on the front of the rear diff... ;)
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I did not know that, when does the clutch engage? The **** trail also has an electronically operated clutch, but if you run in 4WD mode uneven tyre wear front to back knackers the VCU PDQ. I'm only looking on here to see what the Freelander is in reliability terms. Currently I have a P38.
 
It's the X-Trail I'm on about.. My mate next door has one and it's a great road car for all weathers and not bad in mild off roading. One thing though- it's bloody reliable.. but... BORING!

Anyway, the leccy clutch for the AWD is where the prop joins the back diff which only kicks in when the fronts slip- just like our VCUs. But does not have a VCU. I would imagine that uneven tyre wear would still knacker things PDQ if used on road in AWD mode. The only thing I really like about it is the heated/cooled cup holders (that don't require Go Go Gadget arms to reach) and the pasty-warming locker in the dash!
 
Spacemonkey... said:
It's the X-Trail I'm on about.. My mate next door has one and it's a great road car for all weathers and not bad in mild off roading. One thing though- it's bloody reliable.. but... BORING!

Anyway, the leccy clutch for the AWD is where the prop joins the back diff which only kicks in when the fronts slip- just like our VCUs. But does not have a VCU. I would imagine that uneven tyre wear would still knacker things PDQ if used on road in AWD mode. The only thing I really like about it is the heated/cooled cup holders (that don't require Go Go Gadget arms to reach) and the pasty-warming locker in the dash!
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Dezuls are ****e.
 
Spacemonkey... said:
It's the X-Trail I'm on about.. My mate next door has one and it's a great road car for all weathers and not bad in mild off roading. One thing though- it's bloody reliable.. but... BORING!

Anyway, the leccy clutch for the AWD is where the prop joins the back diff which only kicks in when the fronts slip- just like our VCUs. But does not have a VCU. I would imagine that uneven tyre wear would still knacker things PDQ if used on road in AWD mode. The only thing I really like about it is the heated/cooled cup holders (that don't require Go Go Gadget arms to reach) and the pasty-warming locker in the dash!
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My Xtrail diesel was far from reliable, worse than any LR product, Engine ECU firmware problems, turbo failures, intercooler failures, brake failures, clutch problems etc. All in all a heap of crap. According to the dealer it had a VCU and there was something about it in the handbook with emphasis on tyre wear.
 
Datatek said:
My Xtrail diesel was far from reliable, worse than any LR product, Engine ECU firmware problems, turbo failures, intercooler failures, brake failures, clutch problems etc. All in all a heap of crap. According to the dealer it had a VCU and there was something about it in the handbook with emphasis on tyre wear.
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Nope not viscus. Hadlex type thingy.
 
My mates is the 136bhp ish Sport model with speedo in front of steering wheel, not in the centre if that makes a difference. Yes, I agree, turbos go- but dead easy to swap on those, unlike the Freelander. I know- we did it a few months back. Apart from that- nothing at all wrong with it. Except he should have got a Patrol or Navarra (and checked the fuel sensors to prevent the lean burning piston holing problems...). A mate in Switzerland bought a Patrol 3L D and it blew the engine in 35k miles due to the lean cylinder problem, but as it was full NSH they replaced under warranty. That one then blew at 18k and they told him where to go- so he sold it for export to Africa and will never touch a Nissan again- as well as making sure everyone hears the story, including all the customers in his outdoor shop... He then bought a new Defender and in the last 2 years had absolutely NOTHING go wrong. Weird.... ;)
 
Datatek said:
Does that depend on year? Haldex? Just a slipping clutch system hydraulically controlled is it not? Whatever it was, it was a regular failure item.
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Think its electric cos of the switch on the dash. It has three postions which i never under stood even after reading the hand book.
 
X-T has an electronic Haldex system at rear (current controlled) with links into ABS, Accelerometer, yaw & pitch sensors. switch varies between 2wd, auto 4wd (determined by sensor feedback) and locked 4wd. Manual says not to use locked 4wd on tarmac (surprise). I have never heard of one going. Diesels were notorious for blowing turbos, but that seems to have been solved.
Not bad off road - mine has done Salisbury Plain (lost an exhaust), but suffers from ground clearance like most SUVs in standard build. GG ATs on mine and it has never let me down.

I have posted on here how it works in the early days when we were looking into an alternative for a Freelander VCU system.

There is no recomendations for tyre rotation, but it is not a bad idea. Fronts wear faster as the car is usually in 2wd (front) and the front does all the steering. I have not rotated the tyres on my X-T and have just replaced the GGs after 40K, due to minor sawtoothing, leading to motorway drone.
 
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