NZ HUNTER
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Hi can sumone tell me what is the better motor tdi or td5 and do they both have cambelts :blabla:
Tdi orTd5
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eightinavee
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TDI by far,and it has a cam belt,TD5 has a chain - but its not such a good motor,esp long term.
NZ HUNTER
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ok 200 or 300 whats the better one
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200 more farm like but stronger in most cases.Dont mind a bit of **** fuel either...
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Horses for courses.
Many prefer the 300TDi as it is an older and easier to work on design.
The TD5 is more modern but is also a lot more complex, with a lot of issues on things like the Dual-Mass flywheel breaking up, cracks in the head casting allowing diesel into the sump, problems with oil on the ECU plug and engine loom and so on.
You can only get the TD5 in a Disco 2 anyway, so if you want a simpler but older vehicle, go for the last of the Disco 1 trucks.
Peter
Many prefer the 300TDi as it is an older and easier to work on design.
The TD5 is more modern but is also a lot more complex, with a lot of issues on things like the Dual-Mass flywheel breaking up, cracks in the head casting allowing diesel into the sump, problems with oil on the ECU plug and engine loom and so on.
You can only get the TD5 in a Disco 2 anyway, so if you want a simpler but older vehicle, go for the last of the Disco 1 trucks.
Peter
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I reckon it depends on what uses you want to put them to. I've owned both and I'm convinced that the DiscoII with the TD5 motor is by far a better 'car', if that's what you mainly want. On-road use it's significantly better.
If you're going to be doing mainly offroad work and you will be doing maintenance yourself then think more about either of the TDi's, they are both very good and easy to work on.
I agree with that totally. I currently have both and the TD5 does drive and feel better on the road, its quieter and smoother as the 300 tdi is quite agricultural, that said they are very reliable, pulls like a train and easy to maintain. Its a tough decison all down to your intended use and of course poser value. Yes, that does come into it cos people fit later headlamps.....
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I had a 51 plate td5 es, a great car! Had problems with rear air suspension and a leaking cam cover, all done under warranty. In the end though i sold it and got a 96 300tdi. As others have said, it's a bit rougher than a td5 but i can do all the work myself.
If you can afford a late td5, and are happy to leave the work to specialist then go for it.
If you are on a budget then avoid early td5s and look for a really nice 300tdi.
If you can afford a late td5, and are happy to leave the work to specialist then go for it.
If you are on a budget then avoid early td5s and look for a really nice 300tdi.
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Or just buy a TD5, forget the specialist and work on that yourself, no easier or harder than a 300TDi, its just a Disco at the end of the day, no comparison as far as Im concerned
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Its easy to say that here in the UK,in NZ things are a bit different,esp on the South island where TD5 knowledge will be thin on the ground.Go into the local fuel shop in downtown Christchurch asking for recon unit injectors and they will laugh at you.Either that they will suck on their teeth and start asking for thousands of dollars.
Anywhere away from downtown Auckland and unless you have a really well equipped workshop you are better off with a TDI.
Just make sure its not rusty.
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I wouldn't want to do too much myself on a td5, and i consider myself quite competent with the tools. It is far more complex than a 220/300 tdi.
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I thought the same, for a long time. But I'm on my second TD5 and I've found they are not the "evil electronic witch" that I thought they were.
Also, and I may be tempting fate here, I've found that the only things I've had to do are normal service items, nothing at all complex.
I live in Spain and it's exactly the same and doesn't improve but these days with the internet you can still buy whatever you want online and also for help you have the likes of this forum and others where everyone is really helpful to enable you to carry out most of the work yourself anyway.
Most of the L/R Garages here in Spain just have the franchise but still don't understand them, but for me I have the internet and all the info for free
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I agree with thebiglad, I always wanted a Td5 Disco and when the chance came to buy one I started doing my homework...this place (amongst others) scared the **** out of me and very nearly put me off. Almost a year, one doughnut and a couple of bottom shock bushes later, I'm wondering what the fuss was about.
Then again, if you're worried about parts etc, buy a Holden ute. Should be fine in your neck of the woods!
Then again, if you're worried about parts etc, buy a Holden ute. Should be fine in your neck of the woods!
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i was the same with my td5 deepender when i was looking could have had a 300tdi (bloody stupid money for such a older 90) or a early puma at a pinch
bloody glad i went for my td5 though its 1 of the last before they swapped to the transit engine
its gorgouse love it to bits
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Yee Haa ! Nail a Statesman front end on it,a 253 on gas and you are away.
Who was that bloke in Tassie that did the Overlander 4wd conversions with a Dana front axle ? Real classic Aussy muscle.
