Some poor sucker...

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Richard Brookman wrote:

> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt
> "vehicle".
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>
> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind
> the points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status.
> I'll post his reply if I get one.


It's the same as a lot of the tax exempt vehicles sold on Ebay - a way
of breaking the law. Most of the old rusting nails will not be
restored - just the number plates (and identity) swapped to a newer
vehicle.

Not such a bad idea really.
 

"Simon Atkinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt
>> "vehicle".
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>>
>> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind
>> the points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status.
>> I'll post his reply if I get one.

>
> It's the same as a lot of the tax exempt vehicles sold on Ebay - a way
> of breaking the law. Most of the old rusting nails will not be
> restored - just the number plates (and identity) swapped to a newer
> vehicle.
>
> Not such a bad idea really.


Until you get caught!!!

Peter.


 
Peter Seddon wrote:

>
> "Simon Atkinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Richard Brookman wrote:
> >
> >> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt
> >> "vehicle".
> > >
> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
> > >
> >> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in

> mind >> the points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax
> status. >> I'll post his reply if I get one.
> >
> > It's the same as a lot of the tax exempt vehicles sold on Ebay - a
> > way of breaking the law. Most of the old rusting nails will not be
> > restored - just the number plates (and identity) swapped to a newer
> > vehicle.
> >
> > Not such a bad idea really.

>
> Until you get caught!!!


And if anyone got caught, it would be me!
 

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt "vehicle".
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>
> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind the
> points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status. I'll post
> his reply if I get one.
>
> --
>
> Its not even a Series 2 key ( lock in dash) I think its a series 3 key,

Lock on steering column , double sided key.
steve the grease


 
R L Driver wrote:
> "Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt "vehicle".
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>>
>>I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind the
>>points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status. I'll post
>>his reply if I get one.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Its not even a Series 2 key ( lock in dash) I think its a series 3 key,

>
> Lock on steering column , double sided key.
> steve the grease
>
>


I just did a search for other items for sale by this seller. I wondered
if he might also have had surplus donut holes for sale.
 
>>
>>Until you get caught!!!
>>


What's to "get caught" for, the points system says that chassis etc etc can
be replaced by "new parts of original design" . So , if you build a
landrover out of all new parts you can in theory (according to THEIR rules)
use a log book like this on it


 
On Sunday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Smurf" wrote:

> >>
> >>Until you get caught!!!
> >>

>
> What's to "get caught" for, the points system says that chassis etc etc can
> be replaced by "new parts of original design" . So , if you build a
> landrover out of all new parts you can in theory (according to THEIR rules)
> use a log book like this on it


My recollection is that the chassis is sufficient points that you cannot
replace it with the chassis from another vehicle without changine
vehicle identity, but the rules allow that replacement by new. You
could still lose the original identity because of other changes.

Some people have taken two vehicles, made a hybrid, had to register is
as the newer vehicle. and then transferred the number from the other.
Which is how a legal coil-sprung V8 Series I could be built -- as far as
DVLA are concerned, it's a Range Rover.


--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

Wrought under license granted by Her Majesty's Apostropher Royal AD MMIV
 
Seller's reply: "As I understand it as long as you don't change the type
you're ok. eg changing leef springs for coil etc."

In other words, if it all goes tits-up, don't come back to me - I only gave
you my opinion.

It's already up to £21. I guess as long as nobody finds out...



--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt "vehicle".
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>
> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind the
> points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status. I'll post
> his reply if I get one.



 
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Seller's reply: "As I understand it as long as you don't change the type
>you're ok. eg changing leef springs for coil etc."
>
>In other words, if it all goes tits-up, don't come back to me - I only gave
>you my opinion.
>
>It's already up to £21. I guess as long as nobody finds out...


As has been said elsewhere, if you build a vehicle with a new chassis
and parts to the original spec then I can't see why it is illegal. My
Series 2 has a new (yes, new) chassis and replacement engine etc.
AFAIK it is genuinely tax exempt. The only difference here is that
you don't have the scrap parts.
--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
Ricard, I didnt realise you were writing to the seller as I was doing the
same.

I got this reply ...
You asked:
"Am I right in reading this - Are you offering the identity of a vehicle
only. Are you then suggesting that buyers swap the identity of their vehicle
for the identity that they buy off you ? I'm sure this isn't the case as
this would be highly illegal."

You are quite right and swapping idenntities would be illegal. I'm offereing
this for rebuild only. please see previous question

Hmmm.

Stu


"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Seller's reply: "As I understand it as long as you don't change the type
> you're ok. eg changing leef springs for coil etc."
>
> In other words, if it all goes tits-up, don't come back to me - I only
> gave you my opinion.
>
> It's already up to £21. I guess as long as nobody finds out...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Rich
>
> Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous
> "Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> ...is going to be very disappointed if they buy this tax-exempt
>> "vehicle".
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4511471492
>>
>> I've sent the guy a question asking how it all works, bearing in mind the
>> points system for keeping a vehicle's identity and tax status. I'll post
>> his reply if I get one.

>
>



 
In message <[email protected]>
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seller's reply: "As I understand it as long as you don't change the type
> you're ok. eg changing leef springs for coil etc."
>


He's quite right - from the DVLA site, the points that you retain
from the original vehicle mean that you can change everything
*except* the engine. If you want to change the engine then you'd
have to keep the leaf springs or something else. It's all at
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regrebil.htm


> In other words, if it all goes tits-up, don't come back to me - I only gave
> you my opinion.
>
> It's already up to £21. I guess as long as nobody finds out...
>
>
>


Richard

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