*sigh* It gets worse...

Judith wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine
>
> I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
> checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
> move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
> air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
> correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
> Don't be daft.
>
135NM innit?

I now have a torque bar to put them on and a 3' breaker bar with a 6' length
of scaffold just in case I ever go near my local ATS.

P.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:31:14 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>135NM innit?

I always have to check in the handbook.
>
>I now have a torque bar to put them on and a 3' breaker bar with a 6' length
>of scaffold just in case I ever go near my local ATS.

I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
girl. It's perfect for stuck nuts (if you'll pardon the expression)
as long as you can get someone to hold the socket on the nut while I
swing on the end of the pole!

Judith

I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine
>
> I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
> checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
> move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
> air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
> correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
> Don't be daft.
>
> Judith

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:52:35 +0100, in
<[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Dunno what they do if they meet a lorry, which is the same width. *

panic usually
--
denis

"I teleported home one night, With Ron and Sid and Meg,
Ron stole Meggie's heart away, And I got Sidney's leg. "

Larry typed:
> I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
> setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

They did this with one of my cars a few years ago .. used a break-back
torque wrench, it broke correctly, and they then turned it another 1/4 turn
... Why ?

I un-did them at work and re-tightened them correctly ..

Over-torqueing can be worse than under-torqueing.

--
Paul ...

(8(|) ... Homer Rocks

"Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:08:47 +0100, weallhatebillgates
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Aren't garages legally required to set the correct torque for wheelnuts?
> >Some companies do rated bars for air guns (Snap-On for one) for correct
> >torque.
>
> I don't know. I wish I had thought to ask the fitters at the time.
>
> I'm going to check the nuts sometime this week. It'll do no harm to
> take the Disco down to a tyre garage and ask them to check. (Somebody
> on this ng has already said that National checked his free of charge).
>
> Judith
I aw in an Auto Express the other week (trying to figure out what to replace
Bentley 8 with that is more Labrador friendly, still not sold B or decided!)
and they had a whole "thing" on this garages over tightening and the damage
it can do. They visited loads of placed and very few got it right.

My first AA call out was to undo over tight wheel nuts on a flat tyre
Ever since carry a length of steel bar around for just such an occasion.

Sarah

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:15:53 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Not really they have to have a plausible story...
> >
> >In fact they are very well versed in spouting the same story without
> >hesitating, the true test is if they like your dog when he's not
> >confined.
>
> Possibly I guess. I felt a tad sorry for him actually - was almost as
> if he were embarrassed. He made a fuss of Max and didn't offer to
> resurface my drive...
>

Meanwhile his mucker was trying to work out the best way to syphon LPG
without cracking his lips.....



Lee D

In article <[email protected]>, Mother wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:34:24 +0100, Judith
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
>>girl.
>
> You should have kept the whole swing assembly. They make an ideal
> impromptu engine hoist (so I'm told) - oh for a digital camera in
> those old days of roadside engine replacements!
>

Roadside engine replacment!!!

Did you just happen to be carrying a spare?


--
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Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:34:24 +0100, Judith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
>girl.

You should have kept the whole swing assembly. They make an ideal
impromptu engine hoist (so I'm told) - oh for a digital camera in
those old days of roadside engine replacements!


--
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In message <[email protected]>, EMB <[email protected]>
writes
>Martin Lewis wrote:
>
>> "Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Pray ... or invoke an SEP ..
>>>
>> Shut Eyes Procedure?
>> Works for me every time ;o)
>>
>"What happened to cause the accident?"
>
>"Sorry Officer, I don't know, I had my eyes shut!"
>
Wonder if that's ever appeared on an insurance claim.
--
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On 22 Jul 2004 08:57:08 GMT, Simon Barr <[email protected]> wrote:

>Roadside engine replacment!!!
>
>Did you just happen to be carrying a spare?

Sort of... Old Ford Anglia with knackered engine. Advert in the
local paper for a rusty old Anglia so we went to have a look - it was
a dog but the engine wasn't a smoker - so we changed it there and
then. Paid 25 quid for the whole car, after we'd swapped the engine
we towed the 'new' one to the breakers and got 20 quid.

Police turned up just as we were finishing off. Against the "Town
Police Clauses Act of 1847" apparently. The poor sods couldn't
believe we'd actually managed to do it and waved us merrily on our
way.

This was a long time ago.

There's a story about some chaps changing a 101 gearbox in a motorway
service station some years ago which, I believe, makes our engine
change similar to replacing a flat tyre!


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my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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On or around Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:02:57 +0100, "Larry" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
>setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

one or two reputable places are now doing this.

big airguns are capable of far exceeding the design torque on normal car
wheel botls/studs, and they probably are getting worried at the possibility
of a lawsuit if they shear off on the road.

--
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If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
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On or around Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:40:13 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>They did this with one of my cars a few years ago .. used a break-back
>torque wrench, it broke correctly, and they then turned it another 1/4 turn
>.. Why ?

did you ask 'em?

I do my disco ones up to 100 lb-ft, and they've never come loose yet. In
fact, since my torque wrench is old, they're probably less than that.
Really must stop leaving it set for high torques...

--
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In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:59:55 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This was in the middle of Brighton.

Did mine 7 miles away - scary small world!

hugh wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, EMB <[email protected]> writes
>
>> Martin Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> "Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> Pray ... or invoke an SEP ..
>>>>
>>> Shut Eyes Procedure?
>>> Works for me every time ;o)
>>>
>> "What happened to cause the accident?"
>>
>> "Sorry Officer, I don't know, I had my eyes shut!"
>>
> Wonder if that's ever appeared on an insurance claim.

I was actually present when that line was used at an accident scene. I
was on the fire crew that was cutting an injured person out of one of
the vehicles. It was 3am and the driver that said that was alluding to
the fact that he had decided it was bedtime.

--
EMB
change two to number to reply

EMB of [email protected] stated on Wednesday 28 Jul 2004 22:34 in
alt.fan.landrover:

>>>>>
>>>> Shut Eyes Procedure?
>>>> Works for me every time ;o)
>>>>
>>> "What happened to cause the accident?"
>>>
>>> "Sorry Officer, I don't know, I had my eyes shut!"
>>>
>> Wonder if that's ever appeared on an insurance claim.
>
> I was actually present when that line was used at an accident scene. I
> was on the fire crew that was cutting an injured person out of one of
> the vehicles. It was 3am and the driver that said that was alluding to
> the fact that he had decided it was bedtime.
>

Hmm. I've always found that stopping for 20 minutes for a quick doze really
helps... Pity that driver decided to try and kill someone first before
having a break!

Elwyn

In message <[email protected]>, Judith
<[email protected]> writes
>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine
>
>I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
>checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
>move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
>air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
>correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
>Don't be daft.
>
>Judith
My local independent is excellent an all thing Land Rover - EXCEPT that
they too will insist on tightening the nuts on my alloys so bloody tight
I can barely shift them. Set to correct toque they are quite easily
removed.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:52:10 +0100, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>My local independent is excellent an all thing Land Rover - EXCEPT that
>they too will insist on tightening the nuts on my alloys so bloody tight
>I can barely shift them. Set to correct toque they are quite easily
>removed.

Hm? A few people have now mentioned that "professionals" over-tighten
wheel nuts. Do you reckon I'd get funny looks if I went round to kwik
fit (for example) and asked them to correctly loosen/re-tighten my
wheel nuts? There's no way I can shift the nuts myself at the moment
but, as you say, they're removable when correctly torqued.

All I really need is a gorilla with a compressed air wheel-nut-remover
to get them off. I can put them back on (properly) by myself!

Judith

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:15:27 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>There's a story about some chaps changing a 101 gearbox in a motorway
>service station some years ago which, I believe, makes our engine
>change similar to replacing a flat tyre!

My Mum replaced her Series III radiator in a field in Derbyshire. She
hadn't realised it was all furred up until she tried to tow the
caravan on holiday on the hottest day of the year.

Good job she was near Paddocks.

Judith

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:01:37 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Somebody Else's Problem (D. Adams, HHG2G)

But you can get around it by bobbing up and down...



Martyn

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