*sigh* It gets worse...

One of the vehicles on the mud-club stand had 4 of it's 5 wheelnuts (on one
wheel) removed, including the locking one. These people are SCUM. Someone
could have LOST THEIR LIFE.

Reading more and more, I'm quite willing to stay at home next year and walk
in with a cardboard cutout of my Landy

--
Neil

..
>
> Reading more and more, I'm quite willing to stay at home next year and
walk
> in with a cardboard cutout of my Landy
>
> --
> Neil
>
>


Hmmm that may mean it wouldnt break down then i suppose.



Peter

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:48:28 +0000 (UTC), "The Neffalump"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>One of the vehicles on the mud-club stand had 4 of it's 5 wheelnuts (on one
>wheel) removed, including the locking one. These people are SCUM. Someone
>could have LOST THEIR LIFE.

Kin eck. You're not wrong - scary. I doubt whether the thief cared,
though - or the "organisers". Too many shows, maybe the time to vote
with our feet (and wheels) as to which shows we feel are looking after
our interests, rather than their own pockets?
Security at Billing - eh?

I was chatting to a couple of 'travellers' or "tinkers" (or whatever
term to use - they certainly weren't Romany) briefly who were
complaining that nothing was safe during this show. Odd really, these
stereotypes can be a bit damaging...


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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:23 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>I was chatting to a couple of 'travellers' or "tinkers" (or whatever
>term to use - they certainly weren't Romany) briefly who were
>complaining that nothing was safe during this show. Odd really, these
>stereotypes can be a bit damaging...

Not really they have to have a plausible story...

In fact they are very well versed in spouting the same story without
hesitating, the true test is if they like your dog when he's not
confined.

AJH

Dunno bout travellers, but I remember some years back when "new age
travellers" were the popular bogey, with height barriers being put on the
Burton Dassets, lest they might try to camp there after they had shifted
from Malvern or wherever it was they were at the time.

I saw a convoy of them once, and deprecated them for not looking after the
vintage buses that seemed to form a large component.

Trouble is my motor looks too tatty to join such a convoy nowadays

Nah some years ago, a gruop of extremely well heeled Tinkers took over a
derelict site close to Coventry City centre, and they had the temerity to
complain about being intimidated by the local kids


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"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:48:28 +0000 (UTC), "The Neffalump"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kin eck. You're not wrong - scary. I doubt whether the thief cared,
> though - or the "organisers". Too many shows, maybe the time to vote
> with our feet (and wheels) as to which shows we feel are looking after
> our interests, rather than their own pockets?
> Security at Billing - eh?
>
> I was chatting to a couple of 'travellers' or "tinkers" (or whatever
> term to use - they certainly weren't Romany) briefly who were
> complaining that nothing was safe during this show. Odd really, these
> stereotypes can be a bit damaging...
>
>
> --
> Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
> from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
> I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
> my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net
>
>
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:15:53 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

>Not really they have to have a plausible story...
>
>In fact they are very well versed in spouting the same story without
>hesitating, the true test is if they like your dog when he's not
>confined.

Possibly I guess. I felt a tad sorry for him actually - was almost as
if he were embarrassed. He made a fuss of Max and didn't offer to
resurface my drive...

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:52:09 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:
>
> He made a fuss of Max and didn't offer to
>
Passed the test then

AJH

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:18:53 +0100, "Larry" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nah some years ago, a gruop of extremely well heeled Tinkers took over a
>derelict site close to Coventry City centre, and they had the temerity to
>complain about being intimidated by the local kids

I remember that!

I'm not too sure I trust any one group within society more than any
other these days. I have a crafty way of setting my standards, based
upon three grand values; Fidelity, Charity, and Honesty (or similar
wording). I avoid religion and politics (which is just as well!) and
try not to pre-judge anyone.

Neils comments struck a sore chord though. Theft is one thing and in
general I can live with it. Material 'things' can be replaced.
Taking the fecking wheelnuts off though, is tantamount to attempted
murder in my book. I hardly ever check that they're there unless I've
done some work on the brakes or whatever involves removing the wheels,
or been off-roading - in which case I not only check they're there,
but also that the treads are fine... Ihould check they're there
whilst attending a show.

Shows like Billing, as someone said (possibly on UK-LRO) are akin to
Glastonbury. Billing has a history in the 'Fraternity' which goes
hand-in-hand with the joy of the Land Rover Marque. I try to extend
the hand of friendship to the uninitiated and popular world of
motorsport by drawing attention to the fraternity we (generally)
share, but at the same time I could easily cut the hand from the
person responsible for removing aforementioned wheelnuts.

Hmm... that was a bit of a rant...

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Mother wrote:

> Taking the fecking wheelnuts off though, is tantamount to attempted
> murder in my book.

Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine.

Steve

Probably, only they would leave the nuts and take the landie !

"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mother wrote:
>
> > Taking the fecking wheelnuts off though, is tantamount to attempted
> > murder in my book.
>
> Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine.
>
> Steve

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine

I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
Don't be daft.

Judith

Judith wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine
>
> I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
> checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
> move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
> air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
> correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
> Don't be daft.
>
135NM innit?

I now have a torque bar to put them on and a 3' breaker bar with a 6' length
of scaffold just in case I ever go near my local ATS.

P.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:31:14 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>135NM innit?

I always have to check in the handbook.
>
>I now have a torque bar to put them on and a 3' breaker bar with a 6' length
>of scaffold just in case I ever go near my local ATS.

I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
girl. It's perfect for stuck nuts (if you'll pardon the expression)
as long as you can get someone to hold the socket on the nut while I
swing on the end of the pole!

Judith

I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

--
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Series 3 rust and holes

"Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:31 +0100, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Do they do house calls ? I can't GET the bastards off mine
>
> I bought a set of tyres at Billing and, as directed on the invoice,
> checked the wheel nuts after 30 minutes. I'll be beggared if I can
> move any of them in any direction. That's the problem with compressed
> air tools...... have any of these tyre fitters ever heard of the
> correct torque rating for the wheel studs on a Disco alloy rim? Ha!
> Don't be daft.
>
> Judith

Larry typed:
> I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
> setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

They did this with one of my cars a few years ago .. used a break-back
torque wrench, it broke correctly, and they then turned it another 1/4 turn
... Why ?

I un-did them at work and re-tightened them correctly ..

Over-torqueing can be worse than under-torqueing.

--
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"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:15:53 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Not really they have to have a plausible story...
> >
> >In fact they are very well versed in spouting the same story without
> >hesitating, the true test is if they like your dog when he's not
> >confined.
>
> Possibly I guess. I felt a tad sorry for him actually - was almost as
> if he were embarrassed. He made a fuss of Max and didn't offer to
> resurface my drive...
>

Meanwhile his mucker was trying to work out the best way to syphon LPG
without cracking his lips.....



Lee D

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:34:24 +0100, Judith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
>girl.

You should have kept the whole swing assembly. They make an ideal
impromptu engine hoist (so I'm told) - oh for a digital camera in
those old days of roadside engine replacements!


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In article <[email protected]>, Mother wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:34:24 +0100, Judith
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have a pole which was part of my garden swing when I was a little
>>girl.
>
> You should have kept the whole swing assembly. They make an ideal
> impromptu engine hoist (so I'm told) - oh for a digital camera in
> those old days of roadside engine replacements!
>

Roadside engine replacment!!!

Did you just happen to be carrying a spare?


--
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Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

On 22 Jul 2004 08:57:08 GMT, Simon Barr <[email protected]> wrote:

>Roadside engine replacment!!!
>
>Did you just happen to be carrying a spare?

Sort of... Old Ford Anglia with knackered engine. Advert in the
local paper for a rusty old Anglia so we went to have a look - it was
a dog but the engine wasn't a smoker - so we changed it there and
then. Paid 25 quid for the whole car, after we'd swapped the engine
we towed the 'new' one to the breakers and got 20 quid.

Police turned up just as we were finishing off. Against the "Town
Police Clauses Act of 1847" apparently. The poor sods couldn't
believe we'd actually managed to do it and waved us merrily on our
way.

This was a long time ago.

There's a story about some chaps changing a 101 gearbox in a motorway
service station some years ago which, I believe, makes our engine
change similar to replacing a flat tyre!


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On or around Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:02:57 +0100, "Larry" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>I had a tyre replaced at National tyres, they asked me what the torque
>setting was and actually used a wrench to finish the job off

one or two reputable places are now doing this.

big airguns are capable of far exceeding the design torque on normal car
wheel botls/studs, and they probably are getting worried at the possibility
of a lawsuit if they shear off on the road.

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If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
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