Series 2 frame registration numbers

Gord Wedman · Mar 4, 2020

I finally got my brother to locate the registration number on the frame of the 1960 five door 109 we purchased. This was on the outside of the passenger's side front spring hanger (on this LHD vehicle).
The number is 254 363 30. Not 100% sure about last digit.
My brother says he found this to indicate 1962 to 1979, kind of a broad range of years.
Any other insights?
Thanks
Gordon

Rodeo Joe · Mar 4, 2020

I use this to give a rough idea of what it is.http://www.clifton.nl/index.html?calvin.html.
I can't vouch for the webpage but I've found it useful.
Is there a letter at the end of the number?

Gord Wedman · Mar 4, 2020

I will ask my brother about a letter at the end but he said the 0 was hard to read so a further letter may not be visible.

rob1miles · Mar 4, 2020

Any numbers on the hi-low range plate?

wireman · Mar 4, 2020

Your chassis number suggests it's a Series 2a see here
http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/chassis.htm
That goes with what we've seen on your other thread. The number stamped on the chassis should match your vehicle logbook/documents if not you technically have a ringer.

Gord Wedman · Mar 4, 2020

Yes, we have that registration number, 164000541 as well as the engine serial number. The engine is a Series 3 military spec.

wireman · Mar 4, 2020

rob1miles said:
Any numbers on the hi-low range plate?

just so you know the full story with this Land Rover see the initial thread
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/headlight-location-by-year.356945/

Rodeo Joe · Mar 5, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
Yes, we have that registration number, 164000541 as well as the engine serial number. The engine is a Series 3 military spec.

Are you saying the number on the vin plate is different to that on the chassis?

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

Yes. So it seems to be a collection of parts. Maybe the only thing that is 1960 is the registration plate.

Rodeo Joe · Mar 5, 2020

CalVIN, the Land Rover VIN CALculator

164000541

1 Type: Land Rover
64 Model: Land Rover, Series II
Body type: Station wagon
Wheel base: 109in (Long Wheel Base, LWB)
Engine: Petrol
Destination: Left-hand drive (LHD), export
0 Model year: 1960
00541 Serial number

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

Yes, had previously determined that but much of it does not appear to be correct for 1960. Not concerned about this. Was just curious about the makeup.
Thanks for all the comments.

wireman · Mar 5, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
Yes. So it seems to be a collection of parts. Maybe the only thing that is 1960 is the registration plate.

I would say the vehicle you have is mostly, if not all, a 1968/9. Except the chassis plate (inside the cab) and the registration document. Why the older identity was added to, what appears to be, a good solid vehicle, only a previous owner will know. Are there/ were there any advantages in Canada to having an older vehicle? Emissions? Safety? Tax?

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

No difference between 1960 and 69 as far as insurance goes. Someone may have imported the vehicle and found it had no registration plate although that would be an obvious thing to ask about. It's a mystery.

rob1miles · Mar 5, 2020

On the bright side the chassis number is for a LWB and yours is a LWB, Its no unknown for the SWB to have a LWB number and visa-versa which causes a lot of issues.

Blackburn · Mar 5, 2020

You could check the axle numbers and diff numbers.

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

I have never heard of anyone needing to compare a registration number with a chassis number in BC so the difference would not seem to be important.
We thought of looking for numbers on the axles but there is a lot of new paint on them obscuring things and we don't know exactly where to look.

Blackburn · Mar 5, 2020

Diffs are stamped on upper top edge and axles rear of passenger side UK or drivers side if LH drive.

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

Should these axle and diff numbers match the frame number or is there a separate code for them?
By the way, the engine has a plate attached saying it was rebuilt in 9 of 93. Also shows changes for piston, mains and big ends. Does not say who the builder is so I am thinking it may have been the military as you would think a commercial shop would have their name on the plate.
It does say Workshop No and it looks like EC02.

jamesmartin · Mar 5, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
Should these axle and diff numbers match the frame number or is there a separate code for them?
By the way, the engine has a plate attached saying it was rebuilt in 9 of 93. Also shows changes for piston, mains and big ends. Does not say who the builder is so I am thinking it may have been the military as you would think a commercial shop would have their name on the plate.
It does say Workshop No and it looks like EC02.

separate numbers and likely untraceable unlike the vin,lr reconditioned motors were fitted with such plates,military would have a nato number

Gord Wedman · Mar 5, 2020

OK, thanks for that. Sounds like a factory rebuild.
If the axle and diff numbers are just numbers with no connection to year or other specifics I think we will not bother to find them.

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