Disco 2 right side 10mm down, can it be ACE?

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berg450

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After changing front springs and front and rear shocks the car leaning to the right about 10mm. The ride height has set exactly to 61mm at the back. The front left side is on about 43mm and the right is about 36mm (bumpstops). I have already checked everithing, could not find issue. The springs are new KYB ones, same on both sides as my car is LHD.
Can it be that the ACE couses this difference at the front (no ACE warning light on)?
 
Hi, I doubt that the ACE can cause such thing, it's possible to be due to those soft monroe shocks cos i remember that mine was about 5mm lower on the right side empty(maybe due to the weight of the battery) but it was OK when i was sitting alone in the vehicle... after i fitted billstein shocks it was perfectly even no matter what and a bit higher too, measure the height when somebody sits in it on the driver's side and if there will be noticeable difference then IMO the shocks are the problem.... IMO, based on my own experience monroe shocks are too soft for these vehicles, especially that i have a winch too
 
In the meanwhile i have connected nanocom and checked ACE. Everithing seems to ok. I guess the springs are too soft (the ones i got are for prefacelift model)
Next time i will try a Bilstein or ome set.
What i
 
Michalis Karatzis said:
How can shocks affect ride height? I was under the impression ride height is only controlled by springs.
Shocks only control damping, not support weight.
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That’s correct if springs are brand new, but adding new HD or gas dampers to a vehicle with worn or sagging springs may and can assist the vehicle gaining height partially or up to the limits of the springs of course no more.

Did it once but that was on a RRc a long time ago
 
Michalis Karatzis said:
How can shocks affect ride height? I was under the impression ride height is only controlled by springs.
Shocks only control damping, not support weight.
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It's a combination, especialy if the springs are soft and even though the dampers are not there to support weight when it's about 5-10 mm they can affect, as i said when i fitted new billstein shocks the height increased with about 5mm just like that
 
The springs are quite soft...Today I have tried what Fery has suggested, when I sit in the driving seat the left side goes down with about 10mm (I am not 150kgs only 90:))
Regarding on dampers effecting height. Normally it is up to the springs but I can imagine, as Fery has said, if the spring is too soft and the damper has enough "pushing force" can effect the height a bit.
 
So at this moment you have soft springs with soft shocks so fortunately you have ACE otherwise you would feel like in a small boat on a wavy ocean :cool:
 
Actually I feel it quite OK, rides well (comfortable), brakes better than before and turns well. The shocks what I removed were bad, so surely an improvment.
 
Today something strange happened. I have put back the origonal exhaust downpipe (instead of the decat one) and took the car to a ride and when i parked in my garage i have found the car sitting exactly straight. No diff between left and right. I know that it can not be due to the few kgs difference but maybe my ace has corrected the difference somehow? Surely strange.
In my case the decat pipe was not a good mod as no difference in power but was very smelly. So i have removed it.
 
Update:
Today i have changed the front springs (REB000330) and the shocks as well (Bilstein) and now a got a complatelly different car:)
The ride height on the front has increased about 50mm (now it is on the top of the spec) and now the car sitting level. Drives much better, no small boat effect now (as Fery said).
Really strange how big difference is between 2 standard springs (pre-facelift and face lift) and 2 standard shocks (Monroe and Bilstein).
Lessons (expensive) learned.
 
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