recovering vehicles from flood/snow winch?

have been looking around and reading up on posts, limited budget at the moment but am after a winch capable of pulling maybe 10 ton (or five and an snatch block)

i know the buy cheap by twice but i seem to be getting mixed reviews for all the brands

after recommendations? a friend has just bought a winch-ti (it) and swears by is (does pull a dead car along the ground with no wheels well) :ballchain:

also not sure what rope is appropriate ? like the safety of synthetic, pros and cons?

iv got a warrior 13000lb one with synth rope and love it, managed to drag my sorry ass up a hill with all 4 wheels locked due to blowing diff and it jaming me up.

def synthetic rope

do a search as theres loads of info about it but

synth floats, doesnt fray like wire, if it snaps it doesnt whip and cut arms legs head soff it just dropps, lighter, easier to work with as in nicer to spool in and out

you wont get a 10 ton winch on a landrover , besides would probably cause considerable damage to vehicle. You need to consider other factors , method of operation , intended use, power resilience etc . Methods of anchoring your vehicle if trying to move something else , if just for moving your vehicle how you will anchor cable HTSH

thanks for the review paul

tacr2man...i have found a 9ton winch.... but as you have rightly pointed out 10ton on a 3mm chassis might not work so well!

so what size winch do most people have on a 110?

i was just reading up about water recovery and a static vehicle will be about double its original weight.... so 3.5 ton x2 if it was a biggun!

how would my vehicle do if i had say 2 winches one front one rear rear for anchoring myself via tree stop (biggg tree) both of the 13000lb range?

thanks for the replies guys

The best option is not to get into a situation where you need the winch :lol:

ash410 said:

The best option is not to get into a situation where you need the winch :lol:

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You say "limited budget" - how many times a year do you really think you might need to pull or be pulled out of water? Minor incidents..not worth the effort or the money. Major incidents - leave it to the professionals. :fighting2:

Dont recover vehicles from floods. Just like the AA

well last month i pulled 6 cars out of the flood water, all with a mixture or ratchet straps tow ropes and at one point an old seatbelt clutch is pretty much new but at this rate it wont last long!

over the year down here we get flooding in the same places, and people ignore the "flood" sign and plow straight through... well half way.....

the professionals if you mean aa and rac are limited on what they are allowed to do, i have a friend who does alot of work for them, h&s stopps them from doing alot of stuff, he actually gets callouts to do the stuff they wont do!

if i said a budget of £500 per winch?

does anyone know why the aa and rac dont? just an off topic question....

toby916 said:

does anyone know why the aa and rac dont? just an off topic question....

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Very often because it is classed as "accident" rather than "breakdown" and as such it is down to the Insurance company to arrange recovery (and often storage) so it tends to be private contractors that get the job.

but with the RAC (and I thought the AA too) you get accident assistance and recovery, at least it says so on the back of my membership card.

anyhoo, pretty sure I was told to go for a 20000lb winch for a 110.

I have an 8000lb winch on my 110, and with a snatch block, I have found it more than capable of hauling a 110 that is buried up to it's axles in mud.

toby916 said:

well last month i pulled 6 cars out of the flood water, all with a mixture or ratchet straps tow ropes and at one point an old seatbelt clutch is pretty much new but at this rate it wont last long!

if i said a budget of £500 per winch?

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Are you using low range? shouldn't need to put too much strain on the clutch for vehicle recovery...

winch wise, I'd 100% recommend using synthetic rope over wire, i've had both, the wire quickly became damaged and cut my hands from time to time, the rope is very nice to work with.

It's worth spending money on a good quality winch, i started with a cheap one and now have a good one, the cheap one only lasted 18 months.

I wouldn't bother with 2 though, if you're reocvering in a tricky situation you'd want a friend with you anyway, so, could anchor to them, otherwise, just use some strops to anchor you to a tree or similar. I'd rather have one good quality winch than two cheap winches...

The aa have their special operations team which is more for PR than anything. Then they get ratty to do the work.

I have a 13000lb winchmax with syth rope, was around £350 off ebay :thumbs:

If you are mad keen on doing a lot of winching , which you reckon you have the opportunity to do , then one answer , thats a hydraulic winch . It will give you much better control, and will winch for longer periods without any problem , the winch wont get hot so quick , and will be better for the synthetic cable. Be careful thinking about anchoring onto trees , in flooded areas , as that is when they are most susceptible to falling over. If you are wincing cars out of floods then most of time you will be on hard surface, so front wheel anchor pans work well. They are used by securing to vehicle and then driving front wheels up onto them , a bit like a car ramp . they have serrated front end that digs into the bitumen. you dont really need front and rear winches , as you want to secure your vehicle then winch towards you . HTSH

if only a winch qs had been asked before,and there was maybe some kind of search button where you could find all this previously posted information

wiltshire landyman said:

if only a winch qs had been asked before,and there was maybe some kind of search button where you could find all this previously posted information

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In fairness he'll probbably get a load of posts that say search or arguements about tirfors and expensive competion things.

wiltshire landyman said:

if only a winch qs had been asked before,and there was maybe some kind of search button where you could find all this previously posted information

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no, that couldn't possibly be the case, your lying! No one has ever asked these questions before, your mistaken.