Freelander 1 Petrol - not starting off to the rescue the Son.

This is my faithful F1 that I have donated to my Son who just passed his test, it was my daily driver ( I confess I'm now running a Pathfinder) and all was fine until Monday morning (it was running on Sunday night), turned over but no start, he has bought a new battery (swiss winters can easily kill a battery).

So armed with my socket set I am off to rescue him this evening.
Having had no such problems myself during the 5 years I owned it and being a Series III ( She's parked up ready for an engine overhaul hence the Nissan Pathfinder) driver I assume it's all the usual things to check, spark plugs, dizzy cap, rotor and fuel right?

From what i saw on the video call I had with him its almost firing and sounded like fuel starvation.
Would like to know where the fuel filter and or lines are or rather the best place to check that there is fuel coming up.

Any tips would be helpful

Greetings from the Alps

Hi,

If the starter is running, and you smell petrol and you can't start is more probably the spark plugs or the cap distributor ...
If the engine try to start and stop just after I will more probably suspect spark plugs ...

Alteredtech said:

Hi,

If the starter is running, and you smell petrol and you can't start is more probably the spark plugs or the cap distributor ...
If the engine try to start and stop just after I will more probably suspect spark plugs ...

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Thanks ..
what type of spark plug can I use .. why is that the swiss parts shop want the vin number to order that .. can i really be so complicated?

Simon Perks said:

Thanks ..
what type of spark plug can I use .. why is that the swiss parts shop want the vin number to order that .. can i really be so complicated?

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What year is the vehicle?
There is a slight difference between a distributor plug and a coil pack plug IIRC.

Have you checked the fuel cut off hasn't been triggered? It's in the RH corner of the engine bay, behind the fuse box.

Nodge68 said:

What year is the vehicle?
There is a slight difference between a distributor plug and a coil pack plug IIRC.

Have you checked the fuel cut off hasn't been triggered? It's in the RH corner of the engine bay, behind the fuse box.

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it's an early 1.8 and looks like normal plugs, no coil packs i saw.. i'll be there after work so thanks for the fuel cut off tip, how do we reset that if its been triggered?

Simon Perks said:

it's an early 1.8 and looks like normal plugs, no coil packs i saw.. i'll be there after work so thanks for the fuel cut off tip, how do we reset that if its been triggered?

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If it's got a dizzy cap and leads, then check the rotor arm, as there's a resistance in there which can just fail.

The fuel cut off is just a red button which you push to reset.

Well after a finger freezing half an hour it turns out that the dizzy cap and rotor are to blame, the spring loaded center pin that connects to the rotor is in a million tiny pieces and the rotor looks like .. well 20 years old which i guess it is.
Having no looked on paddocks i'm struggling to find part numbers or rather the part number i found online points to a defender dizzy cap on paddocks.

once again reaching out to the hive mind.

thanks

Simon

Simon Perks said:

Well after a finger freezing half an hour it turns out that the dizzy cap and rotor are to blame, the spring loaded center pin that connects to the rotor is in a million tiny pieces and the rotor looks like .. well 20 years old which i guess it is.
Having no looked on paddocks i'm struggling to find part numbers or rather the part number i found online points to a defender dizzy cap on paddocks.

once again reaching out to the hive mind.

thanks

Simon

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Hi,

I think it's NJD10010
9 results found for NJD10010 - AutoDoc Search

Alteredtech said:

Hi,

I think it's NJD10010
9 results found for NJD10010 - AutoDoc Search

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Yea we found them .
Here's the scary part, the swiss Britpart dealer wants 56 quid for the cap and 40 for the rotor ... plus local postage we would be at nearly £100.-
So the parts are speeding their way from Paddocks.

Thanks for the help.

Simon

Simon Perks said:

Yea we found them .
Here's the scary part, the swiss Britpart dealer wants 56 quid for the cap and 40 for the rotor ... plus local postage we would be at nearly £100.-
So the parts are speeding their way from Paddocks.

Thanks for the help.

Simon

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Hi

For less than £100 you will get original parts from a Land Rover dealer

Alteredtech said:

Hi

For less than £100 you will get original parts from a Land Rover dealer

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Sadly not in Switzerland even from the Landrover dealers they take advantage, for a country with only 9% VAT they cry import costs, storage costs and blah blah.
The assumption is that if you live here you must be earning vast amounts of money which is no longer the case with even the big banks and companies all using out sourced tech staff these days we give up over a quarter of our salary, most of the supporting services, cleaners plumbers, electricians and so on rely on "auslander" staff .. i digress but basically like anywhere as a family we have to look at our purse.
Almost all the parts I have ever bought have been imported from the UK.

Bit off topic there but ya know ..
Simon

Alteredtech said:

Hi

For less than £100 you will get original parts from a Land Rover dealer

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Maybe in UK (and France). The dealers over here haven't stocked parts or been bothered to support F1 for many years.

They might sell you those products, if they can be ordered from JLR UK - but they'd come with that £100 shipping fee (plus) and be more expensive than in UK anyway.

Indies with standard/commercial shipping rates and choice of genuine/OEM/aftermarket are the way to go and will be shipped quicker to.