OT:Blunketts gone, Ken next please?

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"David G. Bell"" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thursday, in article
> <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "Ian Rawlings" wrote:
>
> > On 2004-12-16, David_LLAMA4x4 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >

>
> The canonical answer on uk.business.agriculture seems to involve nails,
> a large hammer, and a spare church door.
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In message <[email protected]>, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> writes
>On 2004-12-16, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
>> What a load of utter drivel (again). If you're so clever why don't you
>> go and stand for election yourself and let's see you provide a national

>
><list of impossibilities deleted>
>
>So are you saying we're not allowed to talk about landrover build
>quality being crap unless we can build a better car ourselves?
>
>Oh dear that's half the group gone!
>

Well at least it would be on topic.
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On 2004-12-17, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

> Well at least it would be on topic.


If you're such an on-topic monster then what are you doing getting
involved with a thread clearly marked as off-topic?

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In message <[email protected]>, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> writes
>On 2004-12-17, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
>> Well at least it would be on topic.

>
>If you're such an on-topic monster then what are you doing getting
>involved with a thread clearly marked as off-topic?
>

I'm not that bothered actually, but if someone has a rant then they must
be prepared to take one back.

Actually I don't think Dave is particularly bothered as he doesn't
bother to reply. Nor do I think he need others to fight his corner for
him.
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On 2004-12-17, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

> Actually I don't think Dave is particularly bothered as he doesn't
> bother to reply. Nor do I think he need others to fight his corner
> for him.


I'm not fighting his corner for him, you've triggered one of my pet
hates, people posting to off-topic threads moaning about them being
off-topic ;-)

Mind you, I've got a whole zoo of pet hates so it's not hard to touch
on one of them..

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In news:[email protected],
Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> blithered:
> On 2004-12-17, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
>> Well at least it would be on topic.

>
> If you're such an on-topic monster then what are you doing getting
> involved with a thread clearly marked as off-topic?


OT? On? Off? Topic?

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On 2004-12-17, GbH <[email protected]> wrote:

> OT? On? Off? Topic?


Har har! Conventionally it's "Off Topic" although in some groups it
should be perhaps the other way around!

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>
>Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If people
>don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their way of
>life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but essentially
>the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>


When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
my vote', then I will start voting again....

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Tim Hobbs composed the following ...
>> Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If
>> people don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change
>> their way of life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically,
>> but essentially the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>>

>
> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
> my vote', then I will start voting again....


I'd prefer a box marked "Alternative" ............................. and just
go with the flow, maybe

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"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> >Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If

people
> >don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their way

of
> >life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but

essentially
> >the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
> >

>
> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
> my vote', then I will start voting again....
>
>


There is - just put a bloody great thick line across the whole thing. At
least that way you are letting it be known in the form of a ruined ballot
card. If the 3/4 who didn't vote this Gov.t in had done that then the
message might even have got past the firewall Tony has built around himself!

David
LLAMA 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk


 
I still believe all MPs are like nappies, they should be changed
regularly....both for the same reason!!!!

just thought I"d put my 2 penith in !!!


 

> I still believe all MPs are like nappies, they should be changed
> regularly....both for the same reason!!!!


Even better - I believe that the current practice is to throw them away.

 
In message <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>>
>>Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If people
>>don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their way of
>>life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but essentially
>>the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>>

>
>When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
>my vote', then I will start voting again....
>

Effectively there is - you just put a huge big cross over the whole
paper, not quite the same I know but at least you have registered your
vote.
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hugh
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In message <[email protected]>, GbH
<[email protected]> writes
>In news:[email protected],
>Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> blithered:
>> On 2004-12-17, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>>
>>> Well at least it would be on topic.

>>
>> If you're such an on-topic monster then what are you doing getting
>> involved with a thread clearly marked as off-topic?

>
>OT? On? Off? Topic?
>

Yes
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In message <[email protected]>, David_LLAMA4x4
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If

>people
>> >don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their way

>of
>> >life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but

>essentially
>> >the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>> >

>>
>> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
>> my vote', then I will start voting again....
>>
>>

>
> There is - just put a bloody great thick line across the whole thing. At
>least that way you are letting it be known in the form of a ruined ballot
>card. If the 3/4 who didn't vote this Gov.t in had done that then the
>message might even have got past the firewall Tony has built around himself!
>
>David
>LLAMA 4x4
> www.llama4x4.co.uk
>
>

You really do talk crap. That would be interpreted as electoral massacre
of all the other parties and Labour would have won every seat. What
message would that give to any leader of any winning party? On second
thoughts don't bother to answer.
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hugh
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:30:06 +0000, hugh wrote:

> Effectively there is - you just put a huge big cross over the whole
> paper, not quite the same I know but at least you have registered
> your vote.


Aye, spoiled votes are counted and reported by the returning officers.
The mejia choose to ignore them and generally play down the turnout if
it's less than 40%.

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"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, David_LLAMA4x4
> <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If

> >people
> >> >don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their

way
> >of
> >> >life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but

> >essentially
> >> >the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
> >> >
> >>
> >> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
> >> my vote', then I will start voting again....
> >>
> >>

> >
> > There is - just put a bloody great thick line across the whole thing. At
> >least that way you are letting it be known in the form of a ruined ballot
> >card. If the 3/4 who didn't vote this Gov.t in had done that then the
> >message might even have got past the firewall Tony has built around

himself!
> >
> >David
> >LLAMA 4x4
> > www.llama4x4.co.uk
> >
> >

> You really do talk crap. That would be interpreted as electoral massacre
> of all the other parties and Labour would have won every seat. What
> message would that give to any leader of any winning party? On second
> thoughts don't bother to answer.
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting


Despite your wise words I have chosen to reply...

Of course that would lead to a 100% majority to the Labour party. But you
tell me that this fact would go unreported throughout the country and the
world ( and more importantly in TB's world ) and not appear just a little
bit odd!!!
I didn't say that it would get a different party into power - all I said
is that it might highlight to TB that his current tendancy to ignore certain
public outcry would be harder ground to stand on.
No need to reply - you will not convince me of your politics....

David
LLAMa 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk


 
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:54:09 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:30:06 +0000, hugh wrote:
>
>> Effectively there is - you just put a huge big cross over the whole
>> paper, not quite the same I know but at least you have registered
>> your vote.

>
>Aye, spoiled votes are counted and reported by the returning officers.
>The mejia choose to ignore them and generally play down the turnout if
>it's less than 40%.


How about we modify the system, so that if the number of spoiled votes
'wins', that seat has to be recontested, but with all new candidates?
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'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

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David_LLAMA4x4 composed the following ...
> "Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If
>>> people don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change
>>> their way of life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically,
>>> but essentially the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>>>

>>
>> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
>> my vote', then I will start voting again....
>>
>>

>
> There is - just put a bloody great thick line across the whole thing. At
> least that way you are letting it be known in the form of a ruined ballot
> card. If the 3/4 who didn't vote this Gov.t in had done that then the
> message might even have got past the firewall Tony has built around
> himself!


And a wasted vote, such as you describe, means why the **** are you
complaining when someone you don't like gets into power?

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(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:01:32 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>David_LLAMA4x4 composed the following ...
>> "Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If
>>>> people don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change
>>>> their way of life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically,
>>>> but essentially the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the voting cards have a box marked 'There is no candidate worth
>>> my vote', then I will start voting again....
>>>
>>>

>>
>> There is - just put a bloody great thick line across the whole thing. At
>> least that way you are letting it be known in the form of a ruined ballot
>> card. If the 3/4 who didn't vote this Gov.t in had done that then the
>> message might even have got past the firewall Tony has built around
>> himself!

>
>And a wasted vote, such as you describe, means why the **** are you
>complaining when someone you don't like gets into power?


Because when you have a voting card which gives you the choice between
3 tossers of different colours but similar stupid policies, a raving
loony, a local 'one policy' crusader and a greenie I'd rather not vote
for any of them. At least a spoiled paper registers my dissent rather
than the fact that I couldn't be arsed to go and vote.

That said, for the last 10 years ICBATV....


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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
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