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SiK

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get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?

I've got the special tool

I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of them
work

i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise

and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where i've
been pushing on the spanner.

any ideas??

This is holding up the camshaft replacement

Si


 
In message <[email protected]>
"SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:

> get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?
>
> I've got the special tool
>
> I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of them
> work
>
> i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise
>
> and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where i've
> been pushing on the spanner.
>
> any ideas??
>
> This is holding up the camshaft replacement
>
> Si
>
>

Hit the nut wit a chiesel/screw driver (not forgetting health and saftey)
to "crack" the nut, it will then undo by hand. It's left-hand thread!

Richard
--
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"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:959111c44d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?
>>
>> I've got the special tool
>>
>> I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of
>> them
>> work
>>
>> i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise
>>
>> and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where
>> i've
>> been pushing on the spanner.
>>
>> any ideas??
>>
>> This is holding up the camshaft replacement
>>
>> Si
>>
>>
>
> Hit the nut wit a chiesel/screw driver (not forgetting health and saftey)
> to "crack" the nut, it will then undo by hand. It's left-hand thread!
>
> Richard

Cheers Richard

although re-reading the HBOL and also the howto piece on difflock both say
that its only the diesels that are left handed

going to finish my brew and have another go

Si


 
The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
"wrong" way..... :)

--
Neil


 

"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
> "wrong" way..... :)
>
> --
> Neil

As i now have a red finger I am well hacked off - red as in blood red!

blooming thing

ok next question - how do you recover from a buggered viscous fan nut?

Si


 
Diesel 200TDi & 300TDi and Carb V8 Discovery's use a 32mm Hub spanner and
are left hand thread
3.9 V8 discovery engines or V8's with the serpentine set-up (one belt) use a
36mm Hub spanner and are right hand thread

Regards

Brian Tonks
Tonks4x4
27-29 Main Street
Huthwaite
Sutton-In-Ashfield
Nottinghamshire
NG17 2LD
01623 452885

http://www.tonks4x4.com



"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
> "wrong" way..... :)
>
> --
> Neil
>
>


 
In message <[email protected]>
"SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
> > "wrong" way..... :)
> >
> > --
> > Neil
>
> As i now have a red finger I am well hacked off - red as in blood red!
>
> blooming thing
>
> ok next question - how do you recover from a buggered viscous fan nut?
>
> Si
>
>

Pub?

Seriously though, is the nut that bad?

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
Try spot welding a bar to it of sufficient length to produce a force high
enough to budge it.

Alternatively, use a long bar with a socket on the end, wedge it against the
floor and use the engine's rotation force to budge it by operating the
starter.

Third and final alternative - give in and take it to somebody else to
do!!!!!!!



--
Regards


David J. Button
"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:18ee1bc44d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
>> > "wrong" way..... :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Neil
>>
>> As i now have a red finger I am well hacked off - red as in blood red!
>>
>> blooming thing
>>
>> ok next question - how do you recover from a buggered viscous fan nut?
>>
>> Si
>>
>>
>
> Pub?
>
> Seriously though, is the nut that bad?
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay


 
If you do opt for the "use the starter to undo the nut" way do NOT FORGET TO
unplug the distributor main lead so that you get no spark to the spark plugs
or undo the electric feed on the fuel pump if you have a diesel.

Take care
Pantelis

"David J. Button" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Try spot welding a bar to it of sufficient length to produce a force high
> enough to budge it.
>
> Alternatively, use a long bar with a socket on the end, wedge it against
the
> floor and use the engine's rotation force to budge it by operating the
> starter.
>
> Third and final alternative - give in and take it to somebody else to
> do!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
>
> David J. Button
> "beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:18ee1bc44d%[email protected]...
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is
the
> >> > "wrong" way..... :)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Neil
> >>
> >> As i now have a red finger I am well hacked off - red as in blood red!
> >>
> >> blooming thing
> >>
> >> ok next question - how do you recover from a buggered viscous fan nut?
> >>
> >> Si
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Pub?
> >
> > Seriously though, is the nut that bad?
> >
> > Richard
> > --
> > www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> > Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> > Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> > Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
>
>


 
On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:29:53 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?
>>
>> I've got the special tool
>>
>> I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of them
>> work
>>
>> i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise
>>
>> and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where i've
>> been pushing on the spanner.
>>
>> any ideas??
>>
>> This is holding up the camshaft replacement
>>
>> Si
>>
>>
>
>Hit the nut wit a chiesel/screw driver (not forgetting health and saftey)
>to "crack" the nut, it will then undo by hand. It's left-hand thread!

If you have the special spanner, then hit that instead - the one I have had
plastic stuff on it, helps if you pull that off first. Line it up in a
suitable position and give it a clout with a medium-sized hammer.

You want all the belts still in place for this, to help stop everything
rotating.

It's the shock that's the relevant bit. Might take several
reposition-and-hit cycles to get it loose. And yes, 's left-hand thread.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:18ee1bc44d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > The V8 is indeed the correct way round to undo - only the diesel is the
>> > "wrong" way..... :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Neil
>>
>> As i now have a red finger I am well hacked off - red as in blood red!
>>
>> blooming thing
>>
>> ok next question - how do you recover from a buggered viscous fan nut?
>>
>> Si
>>
>>
>
> Pub?
>
> Seriously though, is the nut that bad?
>
> Richard

Well, I gave it one final chance at with the loud incantation "move you
f**king ba**ard" and do you know what - that was the magic one!

Whoever had this disco before me loved threadlock - every feckin bolt has
got it - except they didnt use threadlock, by the feel of it they used
araldite.

Next mission - undo the oil drain plug - been working at it for an hour or
so and gotten nowhere yet

ho hum - so much for a "quick" job

Si


 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:29:53 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>In message <[email protected]>
>> "SiK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?
>>>
>>> I've got the special tool
>>>
>>> I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of
>>> them
>>> work
>>>
>>> i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise
>>>
>>> and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where
>>> i've
>>> been pushing on the spanner.
>>>
>>> any ideas??
>>>
>>> This is holding up the camshaft replacement
>>>
>>> Si
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Hit the nut wit a chiesel/screw driver (not forgetting health and saftey)
>>to "crack" the nut, it will then undo by hand. It's left-hand thread!
>
> If you have the special spanner, then hit that instead - the one I have
> had
> plastic stuff on it, helps if you pull that off first. Line it up in a
> suitable position and give it a clout with a medium-sized hammer.
>
> You want all the belts still in place for this, to help stop everything
> rotating.
>
> It's the shock that's the relevant bit. Might take several
> reposition-and-hit cycles to get it loose. And yes, 's left-hand thread.

On a 3.9 v8 with a serpentine it is a usual anticlock to undo thread - I now
know this.

Si


 
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:10:07 -0000, "SiK"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Whoever had this disco before me loved threadlock - every feckin bolt has
>got it - except they didnt use threadlock, by the feel of it they used
>araldite.

Most Loctites start to soften at about 130 celcius so a blast with a
hot air gun or similar will often help.

David
 
> get the viscous fan off a petrol disco?
>
> I've got the special tool
>
> I've uttered the magical incantations (c*nt, b*stard, w*nker) none of them
> work
>
> i've tried clockwise and anticlockwise
>
> and all i have to show for it so far is a tender patch on my hand where
i've
> been pushing on the spanner.
>
> any ideas??
>
Air chisel.


 
On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:19:17 -0000, "SiK"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>>
>> It's the shock that's the relevant bit. Might take several
>> reposition-and-hit cycles to get it loose. And yes, 's left-hand thread.
>
>On a 3.9 v8 with a serpentine it is a usual anticlock to undo thread - I now
>know this.

this shows the value of RTFM...

I've got a 36mm "spanner" which I made for getting the (LH thread) one off
the V6 ford, somewhere. Bit of plate cut into a

____________
| |
| _______|
| |
| | 36mm A/F
| |
| |______
| |
|__________|

shape, and welded to a flat bit about 15" long, with a bit of a kink in it
to get it in behind the fan hub.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
On or around Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:29:01 GMT, rads
<[email protected]> enlightened us
thusly:

>On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:10:07 -0000, "SiK"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Whoever had this disco before me loved threadlock - every feckin bolt has
>>got it - except they didnt use threadlock, by the feel of it they used
>>araldite.
>
>Most Loctites start to soften at about 130 celcius so a blast with a
>hot air gun or similar will often help.

I tend to use oxy-acetylene meself...

seriously, some sump plugs can be stuck like a sticky thing, and getting it
quite hot will let you shift it.

Having a fire extinguisher handy is a good plan, though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
> >> any ideas??
> >>
> > Air chisel.
>
> Yep, the perfect way to knacker the water pump bearings!
>
Never has done yet!


 

"SimonJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> >> any ideas??
>> >>
>> > Air chisel.
>>
>> Yep, the perfect way to knacker the water pump bearings!
>>
> Never has done yet!

You've been lucky. I know of a local garage who do it deliberately, happy in
the knowledge that the customer will be returning within a few months for a
water pump change! Works for them in around 75% of cases!! Cowboys, I hate
'em.
Badger.


 
Badger wrote:

> You've been lucky. I know of a local garage who do it deliberately, happy in
> the knowledge that the customer will be returning within a few months for a
> water pump change! Works for them in around 75% of cases!! Cowboys, I hate
> 'em.

Hi Badger.
Are the bearings changeable, or do you need a whole new pump unit ? I
have the pump from my 200Tdi rebuild, and wondered about starting from
known good.

Steve
 
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