No power from 2000rpm and engine light comes on

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Looking for some advice as I have just got my Freeelander td4 2004 back from a so called mechanic? I put the car in to get a couple of small jobs done and one was to fit a new fuel pump ( wheel arch ) The mechanic told me before bringing the car in to make sure it was low on fuel { not something I normally do } Please note the car was running great before putting in to the garage as I recently gave it a full service but never got round to changing the fuel pump due to work commitments. Anyway got he car back and now wont rev past 2000rpm and engine light comes on. The mechanic did tell me that he replaced the fuel pump and the left running for a while to work on other cars and forgot about it., he said it was coughing a spurting and told me to bring down diesel to put in, which I did and drove it away with the above symptoms. I have now fallen out with the so called mechanic due to this and will never take my cars back to him. Anyway I think because he let the car run low on fuel that it has dragged up crap. Should I change the fuel filter first to see if this helps? or is there anything else I should be looking at?
 
There's not that much debris in the bottom of a plastic fuel tank. If there were, it's unlikely to get through the pickup strainer. There could be an amount of water in the bottom of the tank. However running the tank low won't necessarily suck more up, as it's always on the bottom anyway.
When was the sedimenter last drained?
 
You didn't have to run the tank low as there's only the wheelarch pump on your model, but never mind.

EDIT: Thinking about it, even if you had the in-tank pump (pre 02) there's an access panel, so there would be no need to drain the tank in that case. I suggest your mechanic doesn't know a Freelander from his @rsehole...

As Nodge says, there's rarely any sh1te in a plastic fuel tank - I looked into our 15 year-old one and it was spotless. Also, the pickup strainer is there.

Why was the fuel pump changed?

Did the mechanic do any other jobs at the same time?

It may be wise to get an experienced Freelander mechanic to inspect the other man's work - if any defects are found you are better set to make a claim back for fees. They will also be able to find any error codes.
 
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Check out the codes. It's possible for the fault to be unrelated to the LP pump. Are the boost hoses ok, for instance. It's possible that a split hose is given the same MIL on at 2K Rpm.
But unless you get the codes. You'll be ****ing in the wind.
 
Nodge68 said:
There could be an amount of water in the bottom of the tank. However running the tank low won't necessarily suck more up, as it's always on the bottom anyway.
When was the sedimenter last drained?
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How often would the sedimenter bowl need draining in your opinion please Nodge also does it have a filter too.

Regarding the OP and not running above 2000 revs double check the vacumm hoses also was the so called mechanic asked to do any other on the engine air filter etc maybe he as left something unplugged, but I would change the fuel filter asap, as soon as he said run down the fuel first I would have thought better of taking it to him, he should either put the car right or pay for it to be done, as you are worse off than when you visited him with the car.
 
Arctic2 said:
How often would the sedimenter bowl need draining in your opinion please Nodge also does it have a filter too.
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It should be drained every oil service, or sooner where the fuel quality is poor.

In years gone by, all diesels has a warning light to show when the sedimenter needed emptying. Today these lights are just memories.
 
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The car was in to get a rear diff front mount fitted as it was an advisory on my mot and thought I would get the pump changed while there. The car was running fine but on odd occasions would struggle to start but mainly on a slight hill. A few months ago I gave the car a full service, oil change, all filters also blanked of egr with kit and changed the crank case breather and was using good fuel and injector cleaner and all was good apart from the odd dodgy start on hill, so thought I would try a new fuel pump. Wish I never now. When we picked the freelander up from the garage I followed my wife as she was driving the freelander we had to keep stopping as she had no power, eventually she managed to get it driving okay and took it for a good blast and all was well until this morning and back to no power. Really peeed off. We are not prepared to take it back to the garage as dont believe a word he says, he told us he spent over 8 hours trying to fix the problem which he is not getting paid for, but when we picked the car up the brakes were stuck on , which meant the car had been sitting a while. I am going to buy a new fuel filter tomorrow and fit this and see what happens. What part is the sediimenter so I can have a look while I am in that area anyway and will give it a clean? ps Thanks for the replies.
 
Hi forgot to mention that the mechanic told us he had it on his computer and came up with a fault, dont know the code but he said it was low fuel pressure? and he is adamant that it needs a new injector which I find hard to believe as it was running really well prior to him working on it. My wife had it up to 95mph once we managed to clear it and thought the problem was solved but obviously not. Would it be possible to get that speed on a faulty injector?
 
What part is the sedimenter ..
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look under the the body .. where the pump / filter mount is ..
you'll see a screw-plug ..
place a see-thru container under it ..
unscrew it partly 'till diesel flows out ..
retighten it when the diesel fuel runs clear ..

even if u take the plug out completely .. the fuel doesn't exactly 'gush' out ..

LZ search link :
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/search/1638586/?q=sedimenter&o=relevance&c[node]=9

Edited to Add:
in this link be an attached pic
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-04-td4-fuel-pump-filter-sedimenter-and.253231/
the sedimenter be the big container at right of pic
the included screw-plug can be seen at it's bottom ..
just above the hole it goes thru for access

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hd3 said:
look under the the body .. where the pump / filter mount is ..
you'll see a screw-plug ..
place a see-thru container under it ..
unscrew it partly 'till diesel flows out ..
retighten it when the diesel fuel runs clear ..

even if u take the plug out completely .. the fuel doesn't exactly 'gush' out ..

LZ search link :
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/search/1638586/?q=sedimenter&o=relevance&c[node]=9

Edited to Add:
in this link be an attached pic
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/freelander-04-td4-fuel-pump-filter-sedimenter-and.253231/
the sedimenter be the big container at right of pic
the included screw-plug can be seen at it's bottom ..
just above the hole it goes thru for access

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Hi all, here's an update. I haven't actually done anything to the vehicle as of yet although have bought a fuel filter but due to the weather unable to fit... This morning the car started with no issues, again wouldn't go above 2.5 rpm for the first mile or so then seemed to run as it should, once I turned it off it again wouldn't go above 2.5rpm but only for 50 yards or so then again ran as it should.. It did this a 3rd time and again for a very short period. Any ideas?
 
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