New Member has horror story to tell!!!

Dear All,

A couple of weeks back a bought a 4.6 hse, it was reasonably cheap so I thought id have a look. It looked a little tired but the paint and bodywork were good and it had the air suspension changed to coils etc. I made him an offer and he accepted, telling me it was fine and also having described the car as immaculate!!!

It also had 14 stamps, but needed a service, it was running a little lumpy but not overheating and was returning about 16 mpg stop start.

However, today, I took it to the local landy garage to have a look at as some smoke was coming from behind and it was down on power and a strong smell of petrol.

So, we know where this is going!!

They said they had seen the car a few weeks back, after both headgaskets had gone, and basically told me Id been done and it needed a new engine!

So this guy has knowingly sold me a car with a duff engine....

Anyhow, I need some advide on what to do. Should I cut my losses and sell it as spares? I dont have 4k for a engine, or even 1200 for a recon.

Or could i find a cheap secong hand one, but im not sure how much labour woul be involved in removing and fitting a new one.

So there we have it... Im not a complete numpty when it comes to cars, I had no idea the head gaskets were shot, as there was no real loss of water, overheating or steam from the exhaust....

I was looking forward to being a landy owner, but i dont wnat to throw more bad money after bad!!

Many thanks chaps

PS I texted the guy expressing my disgust... selling as sold as seen is one thing, but knowingly selling that the engine is shot is disgusting in my book.

make him take it back

Not a grease monkey but if its just a head gasket gone then wont a skim and new gasket sort it

:welcome: to LZ.. first of all sorry to hear of your bad experience... the way some people treat others is far from nice..... on the good side... you have joined landyzone and the guys on here are experts with great advice, suggestions, and will do their best to help you out ... great bunch of guys.. me wuvs em all...

there is something on here mate about this here is the link


http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/buying-crock-****-if-you-already-have-76002.html

where abouts are ya? what year is it?

the block could be warped

a second hand engine out of a crashed motor(rear end) would be your best bet, if you are out my way i could lend a hand fitting it

G-man said:

where abouts are ya? what year is it?

the block could be warped

a second hand engine out of a crashed motor(rear end) would be your best bet, if you are out my way i could lend a hand fitting it

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Evenin my wunderfull guys

evening minty how are you today sexy as ever?

Yep of course......... flattery will get you far.... im rather delicate at the moment


http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f37/right-place-right-time-74584-2.html#post815429

wow thanks for the replies guys, I dont think he will take it back, its too good to scrap or break, bar the air con it all works.

The garage says the block could be warped, it still runs and drives ok, ive done 400 miles in it so far, and it was only today that it really went nuts.

Thanks for the offer g man, id live to be able to replace an engine, what sort of labour would it be for a garage? I might try an source a second hand one?

read the link - it tells yu of peeps yu can contact.

where about are ya!!! a garage will charge about 5 or 6 hrs labour depending on what they feel like, so say 6hrs @ £60 per hour plus consumables so about £500 plus the price of the engine if you find a garage that will do it

righty, you need to know the problem before you go getting upset!

i would strip the heads off and then see how the land(y) lies. pardon the feeble pun!

with the heads off, take some detailed piccys of each pot and corresponding plug (you can do plugs first if you want, this may give us all a clue to the problem)

lets face it, you will have to strip it to sell it as bits so may as well start at the front!!!

number everything, make notes of where things came from etc. masking tape is good for this. keep all the items in the correct order so they can go back in the same order!

once heads are off and piccys taken and posted we can then discuss your options, its only about half a days work to this point if you knock about a bit and dont be scared to take bits off!

if its the block then its gonna cost!! if not then its relatively cheap!

also, put your location in and maybe your close enough for one of us to have a look for ya and help determine the problem!

AJO said:

wow thanks for the replies guys I dont think he will take it back, its too good to scrap or break, bar the air con it all works.

The garage says the block could be warped, it still runs and drives ok, ive done 400 miles in it so far, and it was only today that it really went nuts.

Thanks for the offer g man, id live to be able to replace an engine, what sort of labour would it be for a garage? I might try an source a second hand one?

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There is us girls in here too ya know

before he does that - he needs to contact Trading Standards and see what they can do for him. Dont touch it until you KNOW yu are stuck with it.

sorry guys, im in eastbourne! Gav, I dont really have the technical know how or tools to start dismantling the engine!

mintcherrie said:

There is us girls in here too ya know

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never mind deary, your time will come!

mintcherrie said:

There is us girls in here too ya know

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yaeh but, no but, yeah but - yu is just eye-candy! :bolt:

AJO said:

sorry guys, im in eastbourne! Gav, I dont really have the technical know how or tools to start dismantling the engine!

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bugger your miles away from me, i woulda come round one night this week if you had been near me

same thing happened to me a month ago mate bought the car drove it home 200 miles and head gasket went next morning!!
4.0L petrol i know nothing about engines at all and have done the entire job myself with help from the guys on here got heads skimmed bla bla bla all back together and actually runs but having to replace more bits every day but im getting there i was in a similar boat as well very little in bank couldint afford garage prices some really nice people on here with load of know how!!
and if i can help i will also as i have been helped but i cant drive to you lol as its not right yet!!
but the guy i bought it off done me too he knew it was knacked and tarted it up with oil change and some other stuff i was not vigilant enough and have since learnt my lesson!