Mud Tyres

Hey hey,

Me again. (The guy who is still looking for a Disco 1!)

Just want to get your guys' opinion on mud tyres - I'd really like to be able to do some off-roadin', but the car will also be my day-to-day car. My Dad assures me that I'll need a good set of tyres if I'm going to do anything serious.

Question is - if I stick a big set of mud-pluggers on it, how badly will it affect the on-road comfort and handling? Are the compromise "multi-terrain" tyres any good? What would you guys recommend, and how much can I expect to pay for a good set of tyres? Do they generally come as a set with wheels, or just as tyres on their own?

Thanks,

Alec.

depends what kinda off roading you gonna be doing. i got MTs on and i would get some ATs if i could afford them for the summer. MT's can cause some brown trouser moments on wet tarmac and the bigger the tyre the slower you go.
you can buy them on wheels or on there own but they most prob wont fit ur current wheels

You can buy tyres singular or wheel and tyre packages, larger tyres wont really affect the handling and comfort much (this is affected by a suspension lift), If the car is your day to day car you might want to consider a good set of tyres i.e BF Goodrich are well renowned for their slow wear rate, as apposed to remoulds or copies which are probably equal in off road performance but wont come close in on road wear, again it depends on how much off road to on road driving you are gonna be doing and how severe off road terrain will be, if you are just going to be green laneing and using it as an everyday car the prob best going for a good set of AT's but if you gonna be going digging in mud n sh*t then go for some MT's (never personally had a brown trouser moment on wet tarmac myself with my BFG MT's but maybe thats just me)

Do a search or read redhands stickies on Tyre size and what mods are required to fit what tyres

hankook rt03 mt are good for all and not too aggressive

So long as you don't go too wild with increase in size, or extreme tread pattern, mud terrains are fine on road too. I have 265/75R16 MTs, went from the standard 205/80R16. The difference in on road handling is minimal, but the off road advantage is significant. They are a little noisier too, but its not too bad (and not helped by no trim in the rear! I imagine once I've refitted it all, it will quieten down more too).

I run BFG AT's 31 x 10.5 r15 on 8j rims, never really had an issue on or off road, except in the deepest mud when even Mud Terrains have been stopped. In some areas, like a lot of Derbyshire AT's work extremely well 'cos there's normally good bedrock below the mud, or the lanes are pure rock and stones. Other places, Norfolk for instance, the mud and topsoil go down a lot further so you can benefit from MT's.

To be honest, don't worry ... as you're starting out just get out there, find the limits with whatever's on the vehicle when you get it .. you might be pleasantly surprised by how far into the **** standard tyres will go .. with muds you'll only get further into the **** before recovery is needed ..

Paul D said:

.. you might be pleasantly surprised by how far into the **** standard tyres will go ..

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Don't think he's too pleastly suprised now

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f12/disco-diff-locks-107825.html

Depending how much milage you`re doing two sets of wheels/tyres can work: Use road biased tyres for every day, source a set of remould muds on second-hand rims for the week-end. No rock damage to your road tyres, only to relatively cheap tyres, that you might not feel too confortable cruising the motorway with. Buying two sets may involve more outlay , but you`ll only be wearing out one set at a time.

goonarmy said:

hankook rt03 mt are good for all and not too aggressive

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good choice got to say there fooking brill in the deep mud was towing out peps with bf goodrich mud terrains

and the road rumble isnt to bad considering there 305/70/16

Hi i run BFG MT's on my 110 and they are very good road and mud and last for ever but i run kumho's on my disco bodtail and this is for lanes and they are working out good as well....

so i would say it is as short as it is long its all up to you...

MTs or ATs will make a big difference to standard road tyres when off roading. If you are planning on running them on and off road then you will probably be better off with ATs (less road noise, better on road handling, poss better wearing etc). I bought a set of MTs and while they were fine on the road even in the wet I found they were wearing pretty quickly so have gone back to my road tyres for day to day use and will change them for laning.

Thanks for all of the info guys.

I went into my local tyre shop (who are always the cheapest in the area for road tyres) - they said the only thing they had to fit my current Disco wheels were "General Grabber AT2" tyres - are these any good?

I will be driving probably at least 80% on-road - so AT's may be a good idea. But at the same time, I don't want to spend £98/corner to still get stuck whenever I hit some mud any time I go off-road...

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/better-tyre-disco-3-a-107400.html?highlight=general+grabber
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/tires-107110.html?highlight=general+grabber
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/all-purpose-tyres-disco-3-a-102702.html?highlight=general+grabber
:search: and ye shall find

at2s aint bad, but id prefer the rt03 to them.

I have Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's. Find them very good both on and off road. Never once found them a problem on wet roads. They do howl a bit on the road but its not that noticeable and after all its a Land Rover! I have 2 sets of wheels/tyres and I did initially plan to swap between my MT/R's for off road and my General grabbers for road driving...however in practice I just leave the MT/R's on as it means you know you can drive anywhere whenever and also its a HUGE hassle to keep swapping them over and in my opinion its not worth having two sets!!

Firestone Destination M/T Mud Tire Reviews

They are rather decent and not bad on the road too.

But if you don't intend on try to go through knee high stuff then the Grabber AT2 can't be knocked and their price isn't too high either.

- General_Tyres

I have MAXXIS 285/75x16s on my 90 and they DO affect the handling. It feels like driving on jelly (although I know everyone will point out that's how a 90 feels anyway). If you can accept the drawbacks, big tyres are great but if not some BFG mud terrains standard size are great. They're easier to follow ruts too because they're thinner.

Can anyone reccomend a good all purpose that comes in 255/55/19, it seems to be a bit of a hard size to find anything in.

RRFan said:

Can anyone reccomend a good all purpose that comes in 255/55/19, it seems to be a bit of a hard size to find anything in.

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depends what you are going to be doing ie more on road than off, mud driving etc.

there are a few all terrain styles that are quite road biased which may suit you like pirelli scorpions but if you are looking to do more than the odd lane it may be a better investment to buy some 18" wheels and tyres

I bought Kumho KL71's after reading many many reviews, they are mud terrain but also have good on road handling. I had them for a year on my defender which was my day to day car (commute plus a 250 mile round trip every week) plus pay and play days and laning.

After a year I sold the ladny as it was too nice to wreck at pay and plays, but kept they tyres and put them on my new toy (RRC) which is just used for offroading. I have been immensely pleased with their performance on/off road and could not rate them highly enough. Also very very hard wearing, after 15000 road miles I reckon there is only 1mm of wear on them. not bad for £65 per corner.