P38A Mechanics, FIP and timing chain investigation

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I need my p38 2.5 timing chain replaced and the FIP timing correctly. The engine is around 160k now and I can hear it rattling.
I don’t have the tools or confidence to do it myself and was wondering if anybody has any recommendations of mechanics that know what they’re doing in the Yorkshire area. All the ones I’ve asked so far don’t want to touch it.

TIA.
 
I used to use Pure Car Mechanics in Pickering for everything. Doesn't claim to be a P38 or even Landy specialist, but has a lot of knowledge on them. He had to outsource my FIP to refurb it (to a place in Scarborough so all within the Yorkshire economy), but did the install and timing himself. Although probably a bit of a trek from Leeds.
 
Bix said:
I used to use Pure Car Mechanics in Pickering for everything. Doesn't claim to be a P38 or even Landy specialist, but has a lot of knowledge on them. He had to outsource my FIP to refurb it (to a place in Scarborough so all within the Yorkshire economy), but did the install and timing himself. Although probably a bit of a trek from Leeds.
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Thanks pal I’ll give him a try if nobody comes up with anything closer.
 
Morning BigAd,
Try Allroad Automotive in Tadcaster, they’re ex Land Rover so should be able to advise if their knowledge extends to P38’s. Failing that Moorside 4x4 in Kirkbymoorside have served me well in the past. Good luck.
Tricky :)
 
What do you reckon would be a reasonable price for the work. I’ve a rough idea but I know some of the ones round me are right con artists.
When I first got the car a garage called green oval quoted me 800 for 4 new bags :eek: safe to say that’s when I downloaded rave and broke the spanner’s out.
 
BigAd said:
What do you reckon would be a reasonable price for the work. I’ve a rough idea but I know some of the ones round me are right con artists.
When I first got the car a garage called green oval quoted me 800 for 4 new bags :eek: safe to say that’s when I downloaded rave and broke the spanner’s out.
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Crikey £220 from Island4x4 for new bags and clips and me and my neighbour did the lot in 2 and 1/2 hours. Well:rolleyes::rolleyes: my neighbour did I supervised:D
 
BigAd said:
What do you reckon would be a reasonable price for the work. I’ve a rough idea but I know some of the ones round me are right con artists.
When I first got the car a garage called green oval quoted me 800 for 4 new bags :eek: safe to say that’s when I downloaded rave and broke the spanner’s out.
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If all goes well, 4 bags in and hour. With some major dicking about 2 hours labour. After yhat the cost of the bags. Dunlop about £250 for all 4. Arnott 3 about £250 each. Guess Land Rover maybe £150 each?
 
Grrrrrr said:
If all goes well, 4 bags in and hour. With some major dicking about 2 hours labour. After yhat the cost of the bags. Dunlop about £250 for all 4. Arnott 3 about £250 each. Guess Land Rover maybe £150 each?
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I was meaning for the chains doing and FIP timing back up.
 
Well just for an update, apart from moorside 4x4 who havnt got back to me, none of them are prepared to even look at it.
 
BigAd said:
I was meaning for the chains doing and FIP timing back up.
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Never done that job butvwhen I priced up the price of chains, sprockets and tensioner a few years ago the parts alone from Island-4x4 came to £350. Probably another hundred or so by now with prices as they are.

@tomcat59alan might have done but without RAVE I'd think fan out, belts off, pulleys off, alternator and power steering pump off. Guess removing the rads at the front isn't necessary but would massively improve access. Sump will have to be dropped down. Wammers said you didn't have to take the head off and you could get the front cover out by dropping it down a bit. Then it is just the sprockets, chains etc. That crank bolt is 'kin tight but with a windy-gun you'd be OK. Book time probably 2 hours but reckon you'd do it in 4 hours for certain? So depending what parts and what quality they are I'd think you're looking at a minimum of £600 and more likely £800? @brianp38dse might have done it, or done it on a bimmer.
 
It is one of my to do jobs so have not ventured into it yet, but i will do as nothing is impossible its only nuts and bolts and a bit of care and time.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Never done that job butvwhen I priced up the price of chains, sprockets and tensioner a few years ago the parts alone from Island-4x4 came to £350. Probably another hundred or so by now with prices as they are.

@tomcat59alan might have done but without RAVE I'd think fan out, belts off, pulleys off, alternator and power steering pump off. Guess removing the rads at the front isn't necessary but would massively improve access. Sump will have to be dropped down. Wammers said you didn't have to take the head off and you could get the front cover out by dropping it down a bit. Then it is just the sprockets, chains etc. That crank bolt is 'kin tight but with a windy-gun you'd be OK. Book time probably 2 hours but reckon you'd do it in 4 hours for certain? So depending what parts and what quality they are I'd think you're looking at a minimum of £600 and more likely £800? @brianp38dse might have done it, or done it on a bimmer.
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Yup,I've done it just follow Rave I took the rad ,cowl and viscus fan off and the inlet manifold for access to the injector pipes and timing the pump. Loads of room when the bits are off.some special tools needed, guess I should have done a"how to".
 
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