Disco 2 Martin's ACE Thread

[MJI]

OK current status

Really rusty rear pipes, weeping from front of block.

Parts obtained are.

S/H Valve block which has been machined and waiting for return (D2BC member done it for me)
Rear bar and ram brand new £60 (retail £642.81)
Drop links
1/4BSP fittings
Rubber bushes for rear bar

Next stage will be to get rear hoses made locally by a hydralic company.

May get front ram and flexi hose that as well.

 

[MJI]

Well the valve block is back. I just need to flush out some swarf. And the chap forgot to pack the DCVs.

Photos at weekend!

 

[MJI]

Found the DCVs they are pretty small!

Anyway got drop links and all the fitting at the ARB end

Been quoted about £20 a pipe for the flexi hoses, they are rated to 300 bar.

 

[MJI]

 

[tulipandthistle]

It looks like mine now!

 

[biggeeeee]

I fancy reinstalling ACE back into my Discovery.

In relation to this mod, how does this stand with the insurance company, would you need to declare it?

@Adrian Flux whats your take on this?

 

[brian47]

I fancy reinstalling ACE back into my Discovery.

In relation to this mod, how does this stand with the insurance company, would you need to declare it?

@Adrian Flux whats your take on this?

IMHO if the ACE system was present on the original delivery spec for your vehicle, then "re-installing" it could be viewed as nothing more than a repair, especially if items such as the ACE ECU, accelerometers and most of the other bits are still present.
Obviously static ARBs were fitted while the original active ARBs were undergoing extensive repairs or you were sourcing suitable replacements.

 

[biggeeeee]

IMHO if the ACE system was present on the original delivery spec for your vehicle, then "re-installing" it could be viewed as nothing more than a repair, especially if items such as the ACE ECU, accelerometers and most of the other bits are still present.
Obviously static ARBs were fitted while the original active ARBs were undergoing extensive repairs or you were sourcing suitable replacements.

Just really playing devils advocate - 99% of the time i'm sure it will be fine however if the vehicle was ever in a serious incident where it came to be examined, could it be held that the MOD was to blame?

 

[tulipandthistle]

Just really playing devils advocate - 99% of the time i'm sure it will be fine however if the vehicle was ever in a serious incident where it came to be examined, could it be held that the MOD was to blame?

It won't as it is working properly, which the self test and the ECU will tell.

 

[sierrafery]

It won't as it is working properly, which the self test and the ECU will tell.

that's not 100% so cos if there's some restriction or flow problem within the actuator's circuit this is not covered by diagnostics...first time when my rear pipes were leaking i knew nothing about this system just bought new pipes and the schmuck mechanic who replaced them fitted them the other way around at the valve block... i felt in the car like in a small boat on a wavy ocean without any dash warning or fault code logged and took me few days to learn from RAVE how the system works to figure this out

 

[tulipandthistle]

that's not 100% so cos if there's some restriction or flow problem within the actuator's circuit this is not covered by diagnostics...first time when my rear pipes were leaking i knew nothing about this system just bought new pipes and the schmuck mechanic who replaced them fitted them the other way around at the valve block... i felt in the car like in a small boat on a wavy ocean without any dash warning or fault code logged and took me few days to learn from RAVE how the system works to figure this out

Fair point but that would fall under wrongly repaired for the insurance. I somehow doubt that an insurance would go that far in an investigation unless the claim is skyhigh.

If they find that they will find more. ;-)

 

[biggeeeee]

It won't as it is working properly, which the self test and the ECU will tell.

Wasn't meaning the working of it, but the fact that it had been modified

 

[tulipandthistle]

Wasn't meaning the working of it, but the fact that it had been modified

Would you call it a modification if you install goodrich hoses for your brakes instead of standard ones?
I don't see it as a modification but as a repair.

 

[biggeeeee]

Would you call it a modification if you install goodrich hoses for your brakes instead of standard ones?
I don't see it as a modification but as a repair.

Goodrich hoses are branded and have undergone rigorous testing and have been certified, much the same as all Britpart parts.
I am not slating the work done, problem being its not undergone any testing other than, it doesn't leak.
As I said I would like an Insurance point of view, hence notifying Flux and await their input.

 

[tulipandthistle]

Goodrich hoses are branded and have undergone rigorous testing and have been certified, much the same as all Britpart parts.
I am not slating the work done, problem being its not undergone any testing other than, it doesn't leak.
As I said I would like an Insurance point of view, hence notifying Flux and await their input.

It is tested (although as sierraferry pointed out not perfectly ) continuously by the self test.
However, if you use a qualified engineer to perform the repair (as I did and have receipts to show) surely this would be classed as a proper repair rather than modification as you do not change any working part, you change a coupling that is it.

It is the same as cutting out a brake pipe and putting in a new flare and coupling?

 

[biggeeeee]

Ok

 

[MJI]

Perhaps it is better with new hydraulic hoses rather than replaced with conventional.

Brand new genuine rear bar, 150 were bought, hence the amount hitting Ebay at present.

 

[MJI]

Rear pipes will be about 2000mm long, front around 2500mm long

My adaptor pipes will be around 900mm

 

[MJI]

HOSE TIME

Tomorrow I return to

http://www.redlinehydraulics.com/

I will recommend that they take details so they can supply them to other owners.

 

[MJI]

They forgot to order the banjos and 3/8" connectors