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border said:
I will have someone with me who knows what their doing first.;)
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Very sensible :)
I've looked back at a few pictures. Looks like a big space you have their. Are you on a farm? Looks ideal, with space to work on panels indoors too. Presume there's no mains power in there if you're looking for a genny?
 
Al2O3 said:
Very sensible :)
I've looked back at a few pictures. Looks like a big space you have their. Are you on a farm? Looks ideal, with space to work on panels indoors too. Presume there's no mains power in there if you're looking for a genny?
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Its kind of an allotment Garden, which we rent. my son used to have trotting horses, but we can almost do just about anything we want there. no electric so will be getting genny soon.
Only space I have so far is 17 foot by 12, so gonna extend a bit on that.
 
Did not get a chance to start engine, had to work late. will try tomorrow if I get time, Would still like some instructions on the best way to do it. ??
 
border said:
Did not get a chance to start engine, had to work late. will try tomorrow if I get time, Would still like some instructions on the best way to do it. ??
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I thought you had someone who knew what they were doing! Have you got a socket that will fit on the crank pulley nut, so you can turn it over by hand? Has it got a decent air filter in it? I would check the tappet clearances! Have you checked oil level or even changed it? Is the cooling system full? Injectors and heater plugs fitted correctly?
 
Al2O3 said:
I thought you had someone who knew what they were doing! Have you got a socket that will fit on the crank pulley nut, so you can turn it over by hand? Has it got a decent air filter in it? I would check the tappet clearances! Have you checked oil level or even changed it? Is the cooling system full? Injectors and heater plugs fitted correctly?
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I was thinking along the lines of something like this ;) https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...550C4893307EBA2103D7550C4893307EB&FORM=WRVORC
 
Al2O3 said:
I can picture the scene :) It's worth checking it over first, so that you don't create a lot of expensive damage when it starts/ Better safe than sorry.
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I know Mate. Had a Landy bloke looking at it on Sunday and he says it will be OK to try it.
Got a call from Courier tonight he was down Essex way and had to cancel and order coz it was to big for his trailer, so he has loaded the rest of my parts, 3 crates full including doors roof and bonnet and is on his way up now.
So will have a full stock of what I have tomorrow, hopefully everything will be there.
 
border said:
I know Mate. Had a Landy bloke looking at it on Sunday and he says it will be OK to try it.
Got a call from Courier tonight he was down Essex way and had to cancel and order coz it was to big for his trailer, so he has loaded the rest of my parts, 3 crates full including doors roof and bonnet and is on his way up now.
So will have a full stock of what I have tomorrow, hopefully everything will be there.
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Tremendous, exciting times! :)
Presumably, your Landy bloke will know how to start the engine?
 
border said:
Yes he does but will still have a go myself if he cant makeit:eek:
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Ok, if you insist. :) To the best of my knowledge you'll need a 12v supply to the stop solenoid. That will open it and allow the fuel to flow. You'll need a hefty 12v supply to the starter and an earth from the engine block to the negative of the battery. Touching a live to the starter solenoid should engage the starter and turn it over. To stop it you will need to disconnect the stop solenoid to stop the flow of fuel. If that's not right you'll melt cables and lumps of metal and or set fire to stuff. :eek: So, hopefully someone will correct this. :) You sound determined to start it, so good luck.
 
Al2O3 said:
Ok, if you insist. :) To the best of my knowledge you'll need a 12v supply to the stop solenoid. That will open it and allow the fuel to flow. You'll need a hefty 12v supply to the starter and an earth from the engine block to the negative of the battery. Touching a live to the starter solenoid should engage the starter and turn it over. To stop it you will need to disconnect the stop solenoid to stop the flow of fuel. If that's not right you'll melt cables and lumps of metal and or set fire to stuff. :eek: So, hopefully someone will correct this. :) You sound determined to start it, so good luck.
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Thanks Mate
 
Don't be starting the engine if you don't know what you are doing, you don't have to at this stage, you have way more important things to be getting on with first.
With a project like this you need a few things, you need a build book, this will document the parts you use, part numbers etc for future reference. Make it neat, plan the build, bit by bit, axles , engine , drive line etc etc, it will keep the build on track and stop you jumping around doing things first that should be done last, planning is everything and this will help you cost it all up and give you a chance to budget properly.
You will need a complete genuine work shop manual, Haynes isn't a proper work shop manual , its a comic in comparison. This will tell you how to strip down, test and rebuild everything from the hubs to the gear box, I cant stipulate enough how much you are going to need this.
You will also need a complete genuine parts catalogue, this will have exploded diagrams and part numbers of every single little thing, they are well worth the money because they can explain how things go together and any parts needed way better than any internet search. And if you are as green as I think you are you are seriously going to need these two books, they will save you money, time and effort in the long run.
You are basically going to teach your self how a vehicle like this goes together, from wiring, fuel system, braking system , engine , drive line , every little thing and to do this you need to be able to tap into the information required, buy the books , really , what you are doing isn't easy.
And if I could offer you only one piece of advice it would be take your time, patience will pay off in the long run, because this cannot be done quickly if you want a decent vehicle at the end of it. So plan it using the build book, rolling chassis first (suspension , hubs ,steering, axles, etc), engine, fuel , gearbox, exhaust and drive line next, bulkhead and wiring, brakes, body work (off the top of my head, its been over ten year since I did mine) ,
Trying to start the engine now is pointless when you have so much to do first.
 
Also, tools, do you have any? You will need to be tooled up. You can buy cheap and hope for the best but I recommend Halfords professional, they are cheap enough, life time warranty and reliable. Keep an eye on their web site for any deals. You can use a board to hang tools on to keep them tidy if you don't have a proper tool chest, nothing worse than losing tools, its frustrating and make life so much harder.

Nuts and bolts, set screws etc, some are quite specific and you will need part numbers, some are generic and you can buy in bulk. Don't be tempted to reuse a rusty old bolt for the sake of spending a quid.

Galvanising, I would seriously go down that road, brackets , mounts, cappings etc, for the money its costs to have stuff done its well worth it, again planning is everything.

Axle stands, jacks , you know the drill on these I'm sure.

A work bench, much better than crouching over your work on the floor, a vice is well handy too. You will need space to get around your vehicle during the build, no point in shoving it in a corner, a rolling chassis is a right pain to move around.

Sorry if I am telling you how to suck eggs.
 
nobber said:
Don't be starting the engine if you don't know what you are doing, you don't have to at this stage, you have way more important things to be getting on with first.
With a project like this you need a few things, you need a build book, this will document the parts you use, part numbers etc for future reference. Make it neat, plan the build, bit by bit, axles , engine , drive line etc etc, it will keep the build on track and stop you jumping around doing things first that should be done last, planning is everything and this will help you cost it all up and give you a chance to budget properly.
You will need a complete genuine work shop manual, Haynes isn't a proper work shop manual , its a comic in comparison. This will tell you how to strip down, test and rebuild everything from the hubs to the gear box, I cant stipulate enough how much you are going to need this.
You will also need a complete genuine parts catalogue, this will have exploded diagrams and part numbers of every single little thing, they are well worth the money because they can explain how things go together and any parts needed way better than any internet search. And if you are as green as I think you are you are seriously going to need these two books, they will save you money, time and effort in the long run.
You are basically going to teach your self how a vehicle like this goes together, from wiring, fuel system, braking system , engine , drive line , every little thing and to do this you need to be able to tap into the information required, buy the books , really , what you are doing isn't easy.
And if I could offer you only one piece of advice it would be take your time, patience will pay off in the long run, because this cannot be done quickly if you want a decent vehicle at the end of it. So plan it using the build book, rolling chassis first (suspension , hubs ,steering, axles, etc), engine, fuel , gearbox, exhaust and drive line next, bulkhead and wiring, brakes, body work (off the top of my head, its been over ten year since I did mine) ,
Trying to start the engine now is pointless when you have so much to do first.
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Excellent advice there. :)

IMHO, best WSM is Land Rovers own. Given that it is free, you could could download RAVE ( search on here ), it's a fine place to start. If it doesn't cover your vehicle exactly - then it will still contain a mass of info.

+1 on the point about Haynes - "comic" is a polite description - made I larff though :D

I'd also reinforce the point about prep - it really is everything There's an old saying:-

Proper preparation prevents p*ss poor performance
 
nobber said:
Don't be starting the engine if you don't know what you are doing, you don't have to at this stage, you have way more important things to be getting on with first.
With a project like this you need a few things, you need a build book, this will document the parts you use, part numbers etc for future reference. Make it neat, plan the build, bit by bit, axles , engine , drive line etc etc, it will keep the build on track and stop you jumping around doing things first that should be done last, planning is everything and this will help you cost it all up and give you a chance to budget properly.
You will need a complete genuine work shop manual, Haynes isn't a proper work shop manual , its a comic in comparison. This will tell you how to strip down, test and rebuild everything from the hubs to the gear box, I cant stipulate enough how much you are going to need this.
You will also need a complete genuine parts catalogue, this will have exploded diagrams and part numbers of every single little thing, they are well worth the money because they can explain how things go together and any parts needed way better than any internet search. And if you are as green as I think you are you are seriously going to need these two books, they will save you money, time and effort in the long run.
You are basically going to teach your self how a vehicle like this goes together, from wiring, fuel system, braking system , engine , drive line , every little thing and to do this you need to be able to tap into the information required, buy the books , really , what you are doing isn't easy.
And if I could offer you only one piece of advice it would be take your time, patience will pay off in the long run, because this cannot be done quickly if you want a decent vehicle at the end of it. So plan it using the build book, rolling chassis first (suspension , hubs ,steering, axles, etc), engine, fuel , gearbox, exhaust and drive line next, bulkhead and wiring, brakes, body work (off the top of my head, its been over ten year since I did mine) ,
Trying to start the engine now is pointless when you have so much to do first.
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Thanks Mate makes sense, Ive already jumped in at the deep end, need to stop and think. Will definitely invest in the 2 books, also lots of step by step guides on here and youtube etc.
Got the rest of my parts for it today 3 big crates full and a few surprises too.
 
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