Indicator cancelling confusion

Hi,

I made this video to show my confusion when it comes to my indicator behaving weirdly. Basically left-turns work fine, just as it should. However, right turns cancel when turning right, and sometimes doesn't stay on.

The stalk unit is a brand new Valeo unit. Does anyone know what the problem is? What have I done wrong?

Weird Landy Indicators - YouTube

Check that the cancelling ring on the column is set properly, with the arrowed lug pointing to the left and the slots are vertical.

Oldseadog said:

Check that the cancelling ring on the column is set properly, with the arrowed lug pointing to the left and the slots are vertical.

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Thanks, I'll have a look, I didn't think it could be mounted wrong. It's the whole unit. It only screwed on by the clamp. The blue bit that I'm twiddling with is part of the whole assembly. The steering wheel isn't even on, and the tabs on the steering wheel only go into the blue thingy in one way. Or at least as far as I can tell. Anyway, I'll have another look tomorrow. Thanks!

Your indicator is working perfectly, just the way LR made them. I and many overs have exactly the same problem. I have moved the self cancel ring to every position on the clock, have now taken it out and its the same. I still have to hold it down to turn right.

mick the builder said:

Your indicator is working perfectly, just the way LR made them. I and many overs have exactly the same problem. I have moved the self cancel ring to every position on the clock, have now taken it out and its the same. I still have to hold it down to turn right.

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That made me laugh. Initially. Hmmmm... "They all do that, Sir."

Take the rubber boot off and try it mine doesnt stay up with the boot on

lANDYbrownlee said:

Take the rubber boot off and try it mine doesnt stay up with the boot on

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if you remove shroud and loosen screw holding clamp around coloumn you should be able to adjust switch so it doesnt

Yep, mine does that too

Fine indicating left, hit and miss indicating right

Decided to just live with it

me too, but if you ever find a fix, let me know, Ive just not been bothered by it yet, kinda got used to it.

Hooray!!!......I don't feel alone anymore!!

It's exactly the same with me :lol:

had the same pb,

took steering wheel off, found the blue ring was not in the right position, refitted all and hey presto all good.

Cheers

neilly said:

had the same pb,

took steering wheel off, found the blue ring was not in the right position, refitted all and hey presto all good.

Cheers

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I fitted a new one and found the same - thought I still had a problem until I adjusted the blue ring.

The slots face up and down and the rib points towards the indicator stalk. No other adjustment was required.

On your Youtube video the ring is 180 deg out.

Mine does the same, got to hold it down for turning right. So this cancelling ring just requires adjustment?

That video creeped me out. Like a mime working on a landy.

Anyway mine does this too. I know its just the indicator cancelling ring but I haven't been arsed to fix it yet

On mine it's not the ring. I've tried it in both positions (pointing at 3 and 9 o'clock) and it's still dodgy. Maybe I need to buy a Britpart one and see if that works lol

Well the confusion continues.....



I've torn it all down to check it out and when it was attached to the other switches and the column it did exactly what the OP's did I removed it as the photo and it works perfectly!!!

I'll see how it works when rebuilt :lol:

I've sussed it (I think)...... It seems when my steering wheel goes back on it's pushing the whole assembly down hard against the steering column and that's where the problem is I think

Glad I'm not alone.

Anyway. I've been tinkering with the indicators today. And here's what I've learnt.

- The tabs on the steering wheel needs to be vertical, i.e 12 and 6 o'clock. If they are not in that position, you can use a screwdriver (or any other bar). to between the two tabs and move them. Mine was out.
- The blue ring shoud have the slots at 12 and 6 o'clock too (naturally), and the third tab should point at the indicator stalk.
- The blue ring has got one blob inside it, positioned at the aforementioned 3rd tab. This means that when the third tab gets to position 12 or 6 o'clock (12 o'clock when turning right, 6 o'clock when turning left) it should easily slide past the indicator cancelling tab that's inside the assembly. This also means that it should cancel the indicators within 45º of returning to centre position.
- My indicator assembly works perfectly when it's not fitted to the car, or fitted to the car without the steering column shrouds in place. In other words, the shrouds make it worse.
- In my video the indicators rubber boot/grommet is twisted 90º around the stalk axis. This has definitely not helped the cancellation confusion. Make sure your stalk's boots/grommets are not twisted.
- The whole assembly has got a tab so it slots into the slot on the steering column - there's not much adjustment. Maybe adjusting this a bit one way or the other might alleviate the problem.

And finally;
My indicators are now better, but it still cancels when indicating right and turning right. However, it now seems to stay on until the blob (inside the blue ring) reaches the canceling prongs.

I made a video and everything went well until I fitted the wheel and it still didn't work.

So, a bit of progress, but still not there. Frickin' annoying!

Thanks for all the input! Much appreciated!

the_wolf said:

That video creeped me out. Like a mime working on a landy.

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You seem to have spotted my primary passion.

Mines the same! Funny how everyone just ignorers it thinking only their car does it