Disco 1 Improved cooling

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No, I haven't messed with the tuning pins. Was never going for out and out performance, just driveability and economy. Sadly my 300tdi awaits my attention as regards bodywork so has been off the road for sometime and unlikely to be back on the road before a while.
As you can probably tell, I am really a bit old-school when it comes to tuning and work most of the time on normally aspirated engines of the 1960s/70s/80s. Turbos and superchargers I do understand but the electrickery of the ECUs is all a black art to me and I would have to consult someone else if I wanted to be bothered. Nevertheless, an internal combustion engine is still that and much of what held true in the old days must still hold true.It is still "suck, squeeze, bang, blow". It is just that some of the parameters that could not be changed at a nanosecond's notice, can now be changed endlessly by the on board computer.
I am hugely grateful to all the posters on this and other threads who have huge knowledge of what works, what doesn't and above all, what goes on inside the electrical boxes of tricks. If life had gone differently I might have had time to keep up with all the latest stuff, including variable vane turbos and VVT cams. But, as you can tell, I have only lately come to get a lot more stuck in on learning all this stuff and passing on first hand stuff to do with LRs that I have experienced and that I know works.
Here's hoping OP gets enough out of this to cool his exhaust, but I am wondering a bit if his problem might be down to his work being towing so he cannot get up to the speeds where the cooling effect would offset the work he is getting the engine to do. We could also talk about exhaust wrap, but that tends just to shift the problem further down the pipe and it is a fiddly pain to do well. Also it would not sort out any head warping problems. Maybe a recored higher capacity rad??
Underbonnet temperatures are often a pain in the kit car world where I spent a lot of time. People get to do all sorts of crazy things to sort it out. From cutting louvres, to using computer fans to cool the fuel inlet areas. Dolomite Sprints used to suffer from this too and I even heard of a guy who fitted a boat's bilge pump to the cooling circuit to help it work. Others put multi-bladed water pumps in. This was really a bit of a design fault on behalf of Triumph although a properly maintained one did not suffer so much. And they warped heads for a pastime. (Guess how I know! :(.)

200 and 300 can really take some abuse, 200 more so.
Heat defo isnt an issue with the 200, the 300 is more fussy and I have had 2 of them get so hot they started to nip up.
I think the a/c condenser rad is the main culprit which hurts air flow.

Their biggest problem is they are an old tech engine and no matter how much you tune them they just wont give the power or driveability of a modern car.

I reckon an auto 200/300 with a vgt/tweaked pump and larger cooler would be a nice car, but still far from perfect, the auto would get rid of the annoying flat spot when its off boost, but would of course hurt the mpg figures.

Bear in mind an engine is an engine, its all the carp bolted to the outside of it thats complicated, add in the Euro 6 emissions kit and its getting silly complicated.
 
No, I haven't messed with the tuning pins. Was never going for out and out performance, just driveability and economy. Sadly my 300tdi awaits my attention as regards bodywork so has been off the road for sometime and unlikely to be back on the road before a while.
As you can probably tell, I am really a bit old-school when it comes to tuning and work most of the time on normally aspirated engines of the 1960s/70s/80s. Turbos and superchargers I do understand but the electrickery of the ECUs is all a black art to me and I would have to consult someone else if I wanted to be bothered. Nevertheless, an internal combustion engine is still that and much of what held true in the old days must still hold true.It is still "suck, squeeze, bang, blow". It is just that some of the parameters that could not be changed at a nanosecond's notice, can now be changed endlessly by the on board computer.
I am hugely grateful to all the posters on this and other threads who have huge knowledge of what works, what doesn't and above all, what goes on inside the electrical boxes of tricks. If life had gone differently I might have had time to keep up with all the latest stuff, including variable vane turbos and VVT cams. But, as you can tell, I have only lately come to get a lot more stuck in on learning all this stuff and passing on first hand stuff to do with LRs that I have experienced and that I know works.
Here's hoping OP gets enough out of this to cool his exhaust, but I am wondering a bit if his problem might be down to his work being towing so he cannot get up to the speeds where the cooling effect would offset the work he is getting the engine to do. We could also talk about exhaust wrap, but that tends just to shift the problem further down the pipe and it is a fiddly pain to do well. Also it would not sort out any head warping problems. Maybe a recored higher capacity rad??
Underbonnet temperatures are often a pain in the kit car world where I spent a lot of time. People get to do all sorts of crazy things to sort it out. From cutting louvres, to using computer fans to cool the fuel inlet areas. Dolomite Sprints used to suffer from this too and I even heard of a guy who fitted a boat's bilge pump to the cooling circuit to help it work. Others put multi-bladed water pumps in. This was really a bit of a design fault on behalf of Triumph although a properly maintained one did not suffer so much. And they warped heads for a pastime. (Guess how I know! :(.)

Do you spend your time, base your experience thinking about petrol engines?

Cheers
 
It will be the pin causing the smoke, try it with the standard pin but rotate is clockwise 1/4 of a turn, it has a much more gentle ramp than the tuning pins which just allow massive amounts of fuel in even with no/low boost, hence the smoke.

My original std pin, was basically set at the most extreme ramp setting from scratch no other marks were visible on the pin when removed.

Cheers
 
My original std pin, was basically set at the most extreme ramp setting from scratch no other marks were visible on the pin when removed.

Cheers


Did it smoke as much as it does with the tuning pin?
 
200 and 300 can really take some abuse, 200 more so.
Heat defo isnt an issue with the 200, the 300 is more fussy and I have had 2 of them get so hot they started to nip up.
I think the a/c condenser rad is the main culprit which hurts air flow.

Their biggest problem is they are an old tech engine and no matter how much you tune them they just wont give the power or driveability of a modern car.

I reckon an auto 200/300 with a vgt/tweaked pump and larger cooler would be a nice car, but still far from perfect, the auto would get rid of the annoying flat spot when its off boost, but would of course hurt the mpg figures.

Bear in mind an engine is an engine, its all the carp bolted to the outside of it thats complicated, add in the Euro 6 emissions kit and its getting silly complicated.
I've heard that about the A/C condenser,and one bloke I met who uses his for towing all the time put a P38 intercooler in place of the A/C condenser and "claimed" unbelievably improved mpg.
 
The Auto D1 and RRC 300TDI's had slightly more oomph than the manual IIRC

123hp and 280nm compared to 111hp and 262nm.

Of course over time power drops off.

Boost Pin and Pump tweak are well known and the benefits are from what i've read pretty good.
 
Do you spend your time, base your experience thinking about petrol engines?

Cheers
You're not completely off target there. I have spent far more time tuning petrol engines than diesels. I even built my own rig to test and modify distributors, quite apart from all the other stuff I have done. But we turned to turbo diesels back when they became available on smallish hatchbacks, our first was a Renault 19, and we have had diesels ever since, except for our kit cars which are all petrol. I have just bought a lpg Disco 1 which needs work, so back to petrol/lpg again. But I spend a lot of my time on forums like this trying to increase my knowledge and experience of diesels as I really like them, for what they are. I take advice and put it into practice as and when. So am enormously grateful for the wide knowledge that is shown by so many members. To be honest, it is not the diesel engine itself which I have problems with, although I know I am quite ignorant on the minor details of the differences in the fuelling, it is more the ECM/ECU/BCU issues that frighten me stiff! Which is why I fundamentally prefer my 300 tdi.
 
The Auto D1 and RRC 300TDI's had slightly more oomph than the manual IIRC

123hp and 280nm compared to 111hp and 262nm.

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Only from N reg onwards when the 300 went EDC before that the autos were std inj pumps and made a TD5 auto look fast!
The EDC 300 autos are nice cars when chipped, but very slow as std and the throttle is basically an on/off switch.
 
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