ID for Sale... Please report to eBay

ebbadger said:

to be honest the buyer would be pretty stupid ringing a stolen motor with this id as on a coiler a tax exempt plate screams pull and check me mr policeman....

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except the police don't know that.

ebbadger said:

yep happy to, it was built pre 1998 so prior to the points system & sva being introduced, no loss of registration and no loss of tax status

Many people jump up and down screaming ringer everytime they see something out of the ordinary but there are a lot of pre 98 hybrids that are perfectly legit... hence the reason there are several perfectly legal coiled series ones out there.

Thats what makes it such a minefield and not as straight forward as people think to spot a definite 'ringer' unfortunately many people leap on a soapbox without really knowing a lot about the subject

Cheers Steve

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Ahh... thank you... I had no idea that the points system was only introduced in 1998. That also makes your previous post make more sense, i thought it was typo when you said it was build in 98, i assumed you meant 68 (i.e. before 1973)

ebbadger said:

actually this does raise an interesting point, if i take my 1989 station wagon replace the chassis with a new richards chassis but td5 spec at 1200 quid, td5 engine n box n all bits 5000, 1000 for odds n sods spray n carpet the already straight body could i then re register using the age related criteria and flog the finished bodge as a 2012 TD5 station wagon, newly registered and make 20 grand profit??

I see a cunning plan on the cards

Cheers Steve

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That'd only work if you ringed it to a 2012 I'd, keep checking fleabay there's loads on there.

this has left me more confused about registrations and as i was planning to make my series 3 coil sprung with the 2.25 or possibly a 3.9v8 so is this legal leaving it on her current plates or does it have to go Q and also its in poland has not been on the road in over 5 years and im waiting for the law to change to come in line with the rest of the EU so i can register it as polish (at present its bluddy hard to register a RHD vehicle here, you have to go to court to get the judge to deem it unreasonable for you to be without your vehicle)

CJ2a said:

this has left me more confused about registrations and as i was planning to make my series 3 coil sprung with the 2.25 or possibly a 3.9v8 so is this legal leaving it on her current plates or does it have to go Q and also its in poland has not been on the road in over 5 years and im waiting for the law to change to come in line with the rest of the EU so i can register it as polish (at present its bluddy hard to register a RHD vehicle here, you have to go to court to get the judge to deem it unreasonable for you to be without your vehicle)

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points aside simple answer is not legal as it falls into the 'radically altered' bracket and needs an sva (as do, by rights, bobtails, shortened chassis etc etc) ask designa if their coil sprung leaf chassis are type approved and if a new chassis from them avoids the need and get in writing, however if you then swop engine type as well youll lose too many points even if all was ok

cheers steve

CJ2a said:

this has left me more confused about registrations and as i was planning to make my series 3 coil sprung with the 2.25 or possibly a 3.9v8 so is this legal leaving it on her current plates or does it have to go Q and also its in poland has not been on the road in over 5 years and im waiting for the law to change to come in line with the rest of the EU so i can register it as polish (at present its bluddy hard to register a RHD vehicle here, you have to go to court to get the judge to deem it unreasonable for you to be without your vehicle)

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Not in this country. Major chassis mods have to be SVA checked and all these mods will lose you your reg.


It's actually illegal to change the registration number of a vehicle in this country. Only the DVLA can change a registration number. if anyone else does it without informingn DVLA and paying the relevant fees. Then they have commited a criminal act.

He clearly states that you will a get a small amout of rusted chassis here is his respone to me



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From: dyte200
To: l4x4nny
Subject: Other: sent a message about LAND ROVER GREEN #180809665006
Sent Date: 08-Feb-12 17:02:02 GMT

Dear l4x4nny,

Reported to ebay and the police vehicle ids die with said vehicle this is not legal

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That's just give I'm the heads up then!

Freelaner said:

That's just give I'm the heads up then!

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Not really mate the police will do **** all like ebay , the sale is not illegal really what would be is if it was used in the wrong way after the sale kinda like canibis seeds its legal to sell them but not to germinate them we all know this is going on another car be it a rebuild or stolen land rover sending him messages lets him know people are watching maybe he think twice but by the tone of his email i doubt it very much

Dint say there were owt wrong wi contacting I'm.
It duz say summat about is mind set wi a reply like that

Who the feck are you?

Psst...wanna buy some gear?

This'll be good

This guy is shouting in red! Holy guacamole!

:welcome2:.....is there something you wish to discuss?

:welcome: to Landyzone.

thanks for the info i will have to look up on polish laws as a reference to modifying truth is i could do what i bluddy liked because they could not tell the difference when i did the insurance for my petrol 109 regestered as having lpg the insurance document given to me stated it was a range rover 2.4 diesel from 1988 i had to present pictures and a LRM to make them change their cock up

Pardon?

L4X4NNY said:

:hijacked: WELL WELL WELL..... MANY PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME IN THE PAST THAT THERE ARE SOME RIGHT LOW LIFE LOOSERS OUT THERE.. GOD ARE THEY RIGHT OR WHAT!! NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I HAVE THOUGHT IT, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR EBAY ITEMS TO REPORT!! I COULD UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A DEFENDER ID OR SOMTHING WITH NEW IGNITION SWITCH AND DOOR LOCKS!! I WOULD DO THE SAME!! BEING A LAND ROVER OWNER SINCE HAVING PASSING MY TEST YEARS AGO.ALSO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE ADD SOUNDING DODGEY BUT IT WAS A GREAT REG NUMBER AND WELL WORTH REBUILDING HAVING BEEN REGISTERD PRE 98 AS A HYBRID, SORRY TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS AND THE SYSTEM ABOUT REBUILDING A LAND ROVER... AND TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE LAND ROVERS ON HERE IT SEEMS AS THO THE POT COULD BE CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!!! I SAW A RANGE ROVER CHASSIS AND LOGBOOK 1971 SELL FOR OVER £1000 IS THAT A PROBLEM ASWEL?? I THINK THIS IS HARRASSMENT BECAUSE IF I WAS IN THE WRONG IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM EBAY, IM GOING TO HAVE A LOOK AT MY RIGHTS AND SEE IF I AM REALY RIGHT OR WRONG TO SELL THE ITEM :hijacked:

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There are a lot of people on here who either know people who have had or have had landrovers stolen not just fenders, series and RR and Disco's
anything that aids these scum bags disposing of there ill gotten gains,is treated with the contemp it diserves.I hope you are never in the position of losing your motor,landrover or otherwise.
Please dont shout on here it hurts my eyes

L4X4NNY said:

:hijacked: WELL WELL WELL..... MANY PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME IN THE PAST THAT THERE ARE SOME RIGHT LOW LIFE LOOSERS OUT THERE.. GOD ARE THEY RIGHT OR WHAT!! NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I HAVE THOUGHT IT, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR EBAY ITEMS TO REPORT!! I COULD UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A DEFENDER ID OR SOMTHING WITH NEW IGNITION SWITCH AND DOOR LOCKS!! I WOULD DO THE SAME!! BEING A LAND ROVER OWNER SINCE HAVING PASSING MY TEST YEARS AGO.ALSO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE ADD SOUNDING DODGEY BUT IT WAS A GREAT REG NUMBER AND WELL WORTH REBUILDING HAVING BEEN REGISTERD PRE 98 AS A HYBRID, SORRY TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS AND THE SYSTEM ABOUT REBUILDING A LAND ROVER... AND TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE LAND ROVERS ON HERE IT SEEMS AS THO THE POT COULD BE CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!!! I SAW A RANGE ROVER CHASSIS AND LOGBOOK 1971 SELL FOR OVER £1000 IS THAT A PROBLEM ASWEL?? I THINK THIS IS HARRASSMENT BECAUSE IF I WAS IN THE WRONG IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM EBAY, IM GOING TO HAVE A LOOK AT MY RIGHTS AND SEE IF I AM REALY RIGHT OR WRONG TO SELL THE ITEM :hijacked:

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You are no more important than the person posting before or after you, so, there is no need to shout.

What you were selling was a route for someone to put new plates on a stolen land rover and to make it zero tax.

I am sure you know, as a long time landy owner, that there are many landys out there which are clearly wrongly ID'd - brand new defenders on zero tax series plates, etc.

The majority of Landy Zone members are strongly against vehicle theft and sadly know people who have had land rovers stolen, therefore anything which looks stolen or would assist someone in hiding a stolen land rover (like ID plates) are not appreciated.

I don't think many people search ebay for items to report, when i discovered your listing I was looking at Land Rovers in general on eBay and came across your item, i didn't specifically set off to look for items to report.