How much should I offer for a "weathered" series I

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Hi All.
Long time since I've ventured into A.F.L. but, While wondering the
fields with the dogs I have stumbled across a fairly (very) tatty Series
I (I presume) It's got all wheels, doors open etc I haven't looked under
the bonnet as it's not mine.

It's pre-reg i.e. 3 numbers + 3 letters (or the other way round) in a
"truck cab" if that's what it's called with the frame but no canvas
cover over the back.

Looks fairly intact with a slightly mis-shapen (dented) wings. Seats are
exposed foam and bird sh1t piled high on the roof, but it is under
cover no sign of rain.

Assuming the farmer can be found and he is willing to sell it, what
would be a fair offer and what hidden nasties should I look out for WRT
"bits you can't get" etc etc.

Cheers
Pete

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"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Assuming the farmer can be found and he is willing to sell it, what
> would be a fair offer and what hidden nasties should I look out for WRT
> "bits you can't get" etc etc.

I see 4 or 5 in a similar state while greenlaning in Essex. There would be
hell to pay if I arrived back home towing one behind my current series. In
an ideal world I like to rescue all the poor little things.
Offering to take it off the farmers hands with no mention of money is where
I'd start. Failing that, say you have a crisp £50 note in your pocket,
failing that report him to DVLA for not having a SORN cirtificate and your
county council for littering the countryside with rusting metal.

No MOT, no tax, unimaginal chassis rust and useless engine make it
practically worthless to the current owner.
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DavidM wrote:

> I see 4 or 5 in a similar state while greenlaning in Essex. There would be
> hell to pay if I arrived back home towing one behind my current series. In
> an ideal world I like to rescue all the poor little things.
> Offering to take it off the farmers hands with no mention of money is where
> I'd start. Failing that, say you have a crisp £50 note in your pocket,
> failing that report him to DVLA for not having a SORN cirtificate and your
> county council for littering the countryside with rusting metal.

Cruel Cruel man.

> No MOT, no tax, unimaginal chassis rust and useless engine make it
> practically worthless to the current owner.

Hmmm. a crispy crunchie in my pocket might do the trick then.
I'll have to try and track the feller down and put out some feelers.

Cheers
Pete
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"DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Assuming the farmer can be found and he is willing to sell it, what
>> would be a fair offer and what hidden nasties should I look out for WRT
>> "bits you can't get" etc etc.
>
> I see 4 or 5 in a similar state while greenlaning in Essex. There would be
> hell to pay if I arrived back home towing one behind my current series. In
> an ideal world I like to rescue all the poor little things.
> Offering to take it off the farmers hands with no mention of money is where
> I'd start. Failing that, say you have a crisp £50 note in your pocket,
> failing that report him to DVLA for not having a SORN cirtificate and your
> county council for littering the countryside with rusting metal.
>
> No MOT, no tax, unimaginal chassis rust and useless engine make it
> practically worthless to the current owner.
> --


until someone shows an interest in it then it becomes a priceless
collectors item and the owner wants hundreds for it

I knew a bloke with a Brooklands Capri stored under a tarpaulin
every time I went past the pile of rust underneath got bigger and
bigger I asked him several times if he wanted to sell it
he said he would for the right money as "they're priceless
collectors items now" to me it was worth a couple of hundred
at most but that wasn't enough so he just let it rot until
the scrap man had to come and remove it

--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green
>


 
Like my old Lambretta scooters in the late 70's. When I had to get rid of
them it was not easy to get any one to offer much for them. Indeed had
recovered more than one abandoned scooter and registered it before.

Now it seems they are quite a commodity

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Andy.Smalley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> until someone shows an interest in it then it becomes a priceless
> collectors item and the owner wants hundreds for it
>
> I knew a bloke with a Brooklands Capri stored under a tarpaulin
> every time I went past the pile of rust underneath got bigger and
> bigger I asked him several times if he wanted to sell it
> he said he would for the right money as "they're priceless
> collectors items now" to me it was worth a couple of hundred
> at most but that wasn't enough so he just let it rot until
> the scrap man had to come and remove it
>
> --
> Andy
>
> SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
> It's big, it's mean it's really, really green
> >
>
>


 
Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote:

> DavidM wrote:
>
>> I see 4 or 5 in a similar state while greenlaning in Essex. There would
>> be hell to pay if I arrived back home towing one behind my current
>> series. In an ideal world I like to rescue all the poor little things.
>> Offering to take it off the farmers hands with no mention of money is
>> where I'd start. Failing that, say you have a crisp £50 note in your
>> pocket, failing that report him to DVLA for not having a SORN cirtificate
>> and your county council for littering the countryside with rusting metal.
>
> Cruel Cruel man.
>
>> No MOT, no tax, unimaginal chassis rust and useless engine make it
>> practically worthless to the current owner.
>
> Hmmm. a crispy crunchie in my pocket might do the trick then.
> I'll have to try and track the feller down and put out some feelers.
>
> Cheers
> Pete

In answer to your other question, almost all S1 parts, except for special
bits for very early ones, are still readily available or can be substituted
with bits from S2/3.
JD
 
JD wrote:

> In answer to your other question, almost all S1 parts, except for special
> bits for very early ones, are still readily available or can be substituted
> with bits from S2/3.
> JD

Many thanks JD
Cheers
Pete


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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:11:50 +0100, "DavidM" <djm81@(I hate
spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>failing that report him to DVLA for not having a SORN cirtificate

I believe that there is still no legal obligation for you to SORN a
vehicle that has been off the road since before they started with the
stupid sorn business - which a series 1 is quite likely to be!

They give out all these warnings saying things like 'you might not be
able to re-register it', or 'you might loose its registration number',
but i think i'd rather risk that than go though the hassle of keeping
up with another SORN!

I'm sitting on a car in that situation, and i reckon that when it
comes to time to put it back on the road the worst they will do is
either make me pay to get it a new logbook, or if they are feeling
really awkward make me pay to get a replacement age-related plate for
it.



 
On or around Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:55:42 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>They give out all these warnings saying things like 'you might not be
>able to re-register it', or 'you might loose its registration number',
>but i think i'd rather risk that than go though the hassle of keeping
>up with another SORN!
>

fecking SORN... mutter mumble. I didn't re-SORN one of mine, and I'm bloody
sure that they didn't send me a renewal/reminder - since there'd be no point
in not processing it immediately, I'd have done so.

Just had a reply to my letter complaining about this, which is a standard
letter which states that they have no legal obligation to send out reminders
(which I knew) and so I still have to pay the 40 quid (or 80 quid if I
procrastinate).

I also have a letter saying that they acknowledge my SORN for the same
vehicle (which I did online as soon as the notice came). In the letter, it
says: "When it is due to expire, we will send you a reminder as long as you
are still the registered keeper of the vehicle and there have been no other
changes".

I shall probably write to them and ask them to reconcile these 2 statements.
Either they're sending sodding reminders, or they're not. It's unreasonable
but nevertheless entirely typical that they say they will send out reminders
but have a legal get-out for when they don't. arseholes.

But I'm buggered if I'm paying 28 quid of duty. The vehicle was not used or
kept on the highway during the period concerned, and as such, no duty is
due. I hope it's still for them to prove that I committed an offence, not
the other way around, as seems to be increasingly common these days.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Where they make a desert they call it peace" Tacitus (c.55 - c.117)
Agricola, 30
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:43:08 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I shall probably write to them and ask them to reconcile these 2 statements.
>Either they're sending sodding reminders, or they're not. It's unreasonable
>but nevertheless entirely typical that they say they will send out reminders
>but have a legal get-out for when they don't. arseholes.
>
>But I'm buggered if I'm paying 28 quid of duty. The vehicle was not used or
>kept on the highway during the period concerned, and as such, no duty is
>due. I hope it's still for them to prove that I committed an offence, not
>the other way around, as seems to be increasingly common these days.

I had to appeal a sorn fine too (I had actually sent off my
declaration but they had ignored it).
All i used to appeal it was a proof of posting certificate from the
post office (and that is all you need). That is sufficient evidence to
say that you sent off a sorn form (not using the tax reminder) and
they didnt recieve it. (note that a proof of posting certificate
carries no details about the actual letter itself. just a date and the
address it was sent to)

Its almost worth going to the post office once a month to SORN a
different vehicle each time (or just the same one over and over again)
- and then saving up the proofs of posting to be used incase you
forget one or have any trouble!

Have you got a proof of posting certifcate from SORN'ing anything
else, or do you know anyone locally who has one?. Just send the DVLA a
copy of that and say 'i posted a form on xx/xx/xx'

I'm now re-SORNing all my vehicles once a month online - it keeps it
all much simpler!. They actually put them all in the same envelope for
me now! (I used to get a big stack of em!)

 
In news:[email protected],
Tom Woods <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:43:08 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I shall probably write to them and ask them to reconcile these 2
>> statements. Either they're sending sodding reminders, or they're
>> not. It's unreasonable but nevertheless entirely typical that they
>> say they will send out reminders but have a legal get-out for when
>> they don't. arseholes.
>>
>> But I'm buggered if I'm paying 28 quid of duty. The vehicle was not
>> used or kept on the highway during the period concerned, and as
>> such, no duty is due. I hope it's still for them to prove that I
>> committed an offence, not the other way around, as seems to be
>> increasingly common these days.
>
> I had to appeal a sorn fine too (I had actually sent off my
> declaration but they had ignored it).
> All i used to appeal it was a proof of posting certificate from the
> post office (and that is all you need). That is sufficient evidence to
> say that you sent off a sorn form (not using the tax reminder) and
> they didnt recieve it. (note that a proof of posting certificate
> carries no details about the actual letter itself. just a date and the
> address it was sent to)
>
> Its almost worth going to the post office once a month to SORN a
> different vehicle each time (or just the same one over and over again)
> - and then saving up the proofs of posting to be used incase you
> forget one or have any trouble!
>
> Have you got a proof of posting certifcate from SORN'ing anything
> else, or do you know anyone locally who has one?. Just send the DVLA a
> copy of that and say 'i posted a form on xx/xx/xx'
>
> I'm now re-SORNing all my vehicles once a month online - it keeps it
> all much simpler!. They actually put them all in the same envelope for
> me now! (I used to get a big stack of em!)

Why? does a SORN expire and magically the vehicle gets back on the road?

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On or around Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:50:59 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Have you got a proof of posting certifcate from SORN'ing anything
>else, or do you know anyone locally who has one?. Just send the DVLA a
>copy of that and say 'i posted a form on xx/xx/xx'

unfortunately not. re-doing 'em on line is one option, but persuading 'em
that it' snot necessary to keep re-doing it would be preferred. I think
I'll get on to the MP about it...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:42:40 +0100, "GbH"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Why? does a SORN expire and magically the vehicle gets back on the road?

In the eyes of the DVLA, yes. The SORN expires and then if you havent
renewed it within 2 weeks you get a nice £40 or £80 fine.

They have also reworded the SORN letter you get now so that it doesnt
actually have a nice clear end-date on it. They just say (hidden
inside a normal paragraph of bumph) 'this notification applies from
xx/xx/xx. This notification lasts for 12 months..'

 
Tom Woods wrote:

> In the eyes of the DVLA, yes. The SORN expires and then if you havent
> renewed it within 2 weeks you get a nice £40 or £80 fine.
>

We got a renewal warning last year for our SORNs has that changed too ?

Steve
 
On or around Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:14:06 +0100, steve Taylor
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Tom Woods wrote:
>
>> In the eyes of the DVLA, yes. The SORN expires and then if you havent
>> renewed it within 2 weeks you get a nice £40 or £80 fine.
>>
>
>We got a renewal warning last year for our SORNs has that changed too ?

The conformation of SORN says they will, but there's "no statutory
obligation" for them to remind you at all. so if they don't, or it gets
lost, tough.

but it's the duty I shall be refusing to pay. You could well argue that I
should keep track of it and re-SORN meself, but the duty is only payable if
the vehicle's on the road, and it hasn't been, for well over a year.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
In news:[email protected],
Tom Woods <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:42:40 +0100, "GbH"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why? does a SORN expire and magically the vehicle gets back on the
>> road?
>
> In the eyes of the DVLA, yes. The SORN expires and then if you havent
> renewed it within 2 weeks you get a nice £40 or £80 fine.
>
> They have also reworded the SORN letter you get now so that it doesnt
> actually have a nice clear end-date on it. They just say (hidden
> inside a normal paragraph of bumph) 'this notification applies from
> xx/xx/xx. This notification lasts for 12 months..'

Oh, Bugger, it was a pain to get them SORNed the first place!

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
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