Hot 1.8 05 Plate XEI

OK so I bought one....then I read the volumes of doom.

That said it looks and drives really well. The vehicle is in great condition with low miles - just over 20k.
It has no coolant loss, the oil is as you would expect in terms of quality and quantity - i.e. no emulsion or crap.

My problem is that the engine runs VERY hot in that when I open the bonnet the heat hits you like a fist. The bonnet stay is too hot to touch - apart from the rubber bit - but the metal is fooking boiling. The temp gauge is fine and as I say it drives fine, should I be worried? Should I do anything, or check anything other than my savings??:blabla: Aaggghhhh...any advice (other than why did you buy it) is very welcome...

have you got the remote thermostat fitted?
have yu fitted an EWP?

if not - do it .

i knows sumone else with the same problem but she gets her oil light come on aswell

that dont sound to good, drippy .

The Mad Hat Man said:

have you got the remote thermostat fitted?
have yu fitted an EWP?

if not - do it .

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The remote stat is fitted - this is an 05 plate and as far as I can tell was done as standard. Any advice on how / what / where to fit an EWP would be appreciated. I can do electrics and basic stuff no problem, but any pointers would be much appreciated, as I'm unsure what to do there.

i pass i int seen it yet:alien:

it int the one yu looked at last week or so then?

The Mad Hat Man said:

it int the one yu looked at last week or so then?

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No - that was much older and in tatty condition. Then again clearly looks aren't everything....

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Interesting and thanks! I won't be driving it the 150 miles tomorrow I was going to then.... Any ideas on how long to fit and any preferred stockists? Is there a belt change if I do not use the OEM mechanical pump? Sorry for the dumb questions....

yu can fit one as an additional pump. Davies Craig are available from lots of suppliers - :googleit:. if yu get their controller as well then it will run after engine shut down which will reduce hot spots and prospective hgf.

http://www.daviescraig.com.au/Electric_Water_Pumps-content.aspx


https://www.daviescraig.com.au/Images/EWP80 INSTRUCTIONS 07-12-2007.pdf

One last question - what about the fan? In other cars I had if the motor was hot the fan stays on after switch off. Now OK, that's not the same as the EWP, but surely the EWP would be more efficient if the fan stayed on too, as at least the cicrulated water gets cooled? I'm thinking there must be a kit for this engine but so far can't find one...is there one? Thanks.

The Mad Hat Man said:

yu can fit one as an additional pump. Davies Craig are available from lots of suppliers - :googleit:. if yu get their controller as well then it will run after engine shut down which will reduce hot spots and prospective hgf.

Electric Water Pumps


https://www.daviescraig.com.au/Images/EWP80 INSTRUCTIONS 07-12-2007.pdf

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Great stuff!! Many thanks

not sure about fan as yu would have to tap into the ECU, I dont think it would be difficult (via a relay) but aint sure how.

The top rad hose should be hot, bottom hose cooler, EWP is a good mod esp V6 after switch off, but not sure it's going to help you here

very true 1769. Mainly coz we dont know why it appears to be running hot. What it will do, though, is reduce the risk of cavitation, hotspots and HGF in the future

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very true 1769. Mainly coz we dont know why it appears to be running hot. What it will do, though, is reduce the risk of cavitation, hotspots and HGF in the future

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True but I'd say its running no hotter than any other 1.8, newbies always panic when the fans don't come on.....................they rarely do but it's a pretty failsafe circuit.

My only doubt is the stat fitted incorrectly, but temp gauge shows normal so I wouldn't worry

its impossible for us to determine that, 1353.

My suggestions will not make it run cooler, just help reduce the chance of it overheating.
It is, of course, possible to have the actual temperatures measured by means of an infra red thermometer, which would answer the OP's q as to whether it actually is overheating or not

Northern Irelander said:

The top rad hose should be hot, bottom hose cooler, EWP is a good mod esp V6 after switch off, but not sure it's going to help you here

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Hi, the top is hot and the bottom cooler. I had heard about the V6 being hot but my 1.8 is and so far I have not seen similar stories...maybe I just did not search enough. For me though it does not feel right, I have owned some high performance motors in the past and flogged them and never seen (or felt) this heat before.

The Mad Hat Man said:

its impossible for us to determine that, 1353.

My suggestions will not make it run cooler, just help reduce the chance of it overheating.
It is, of course, possible to have the actual temperatures measured by means of an infra red thermometer, which would answer the OP's q as to whether it actually is overheating or not

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His 1.8 will only run cooler after switch off with EWP. I only endorse them in V6's