Help on p38 alarm

Colin1 · Feb 25, 2013

Hi, needing to know what type / make of alarm is fitted to the 2001 P38 . is it a thatcham

need to know pretty fast please .

Thanks all

Saint.V8 · Feb 25, 2013

Not that I know of....

Just a Standard Manufacturers Alarm and Imobbiliser...

I don't think Thatchhem tested or Approved the P38 Alarm but is classed as Catergory 1 - Electronic Alarm and Immobiliser

The Thatcham Vehicle Security Categories
Category 1
Passenger Cars, LCV, HGV, Plant, Motorcycles
ELECTRONIC ALARM AND IMMOBILISER
• Alarm
Perimeter detection
Ignition detection
Passenger compartment movement detection
Inclination detection (Motorcycle only)
Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
• Immobiliser
Passively set
Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention

http://www.thatcham.org/security/index.jsp?page=75

Colin1 · Feb 25, 2013

Hi saint,

just had a look here
http://www.thatcham.org/security/pdfs/categories/PassengerCarCAT1.pdf

also on our insurance web site it comes up as Thatcham 1 , so not really sure my self . But thanks for your help

Saint.V8 · Feb 25, 2013

Colin1 said:
Hi saint,

just had a look here
http://www.thatcham.org/security/pdfs/categories/PassengerCarCAT1.pdf

also on our insurance web site it comes up as Thatcham 1 , so not really sure my self . But thanks for your help

Looking at that list is is categorised as Thatcham Category 1 for the standard fit for the New Range Rover Jun 1995 to March 2002 - so Thatcham did indeed approve the P38 Alarm....never knew that..I always insured as Standard Manufaturers Fitment....wonder if I could claimmy money back for any over payments

wammers · Feb 25, 2013

Saint.V8 said:
Looking at that list is is categorised as Thatcham Category 1 for the standard fit for the New Range Rover Jun 1995 to March 2002 - so Thatcham did indeed approve the P38 Alarm....never knew that..I always insured as Standard Manufaturers Fitment....wonder if I could claimmy money back for any over payments

Bloody hell Ant has to be cat 1. Sometimes even the owner with the keys can't get in em.

Saint.V8 · Feb 25, 2013

wammers said:
Bloody hell Ant has to be cat 1. Sometimes even the owner with the keys can't get in em.

:hysterically_laughi So true....

They do say the P38 is almost un-nickable.....

The Mad Hat Man · Feb 25, 2013

Saint.V8 said:
:hysterically_laughi So true....

They do say the P38 is almost un-drivable.....

corrected for the sake of accuracy

Saint.V8 · Feb 25, 2013

donp38 · Feb 25, 2013

Wammers.
fantastic...i have laughed so much....so true.

i take the view, anyone who wants to have a go can take it..

MrGorsky · Feb 25, 2013

I bet there is a market for some sort of chip set that could bypass the alarm and immobiliser for good in the BECM.

I'd pay handsomely not to have to worry about EKA numbers, and engine sync, and RF interference, and all the other 'security' features they have.

Datatek · Feb 26, 2013

MrGorsky said:
I bet there is a market for some sort of chip set that could bypass the alarm and immobiliser for good in the BECM.

I'd pay handsomely not to have to worry about EKA numbers, and engine sync, and RF interference, and all the other 'security' features they have.

It can be disabled to a large extent with diagnostics.

MrGorsky · Feb 26, 2013

It's the engine immobiliser sync thing too, and you can't disable that can you?

A box that "tricked" the engine ecu and BECM that all security measures were fine, would be handy I think. I'm crap at computers though, and worse at 1990's Z800 programming or whatever I'd need.

If it was too much for Storey Wilson, I don't stand a chance.

Datatek · Feb 26, 2013

MrGorsky said:
It's the engine immobiliser sync thing too, and you can't disable that can you?

A box that "tricked" the engine ecu and BECM that all security measures were fine, would be handy I think. I'm crap at computers though, and worse at 1990's Z800 programming or whatever I'd need.

If it was too much for Storey Wilson, I don't stand a chance.

On the diesel, if you buy a new EDC it can be set to non secure mode eliminating the need for the handshake with the BECM.

wammers · Feb 26, 2013

Datatek said:
On the diesel, if you buy a new EDC it can be set to non secure mode eliminating the need for the handshake with the BECM.

They come none robust. You can set them robust, but they cannot be changed back afterwards.

Datatek · Feb 26, 2013

wammers said:
They come none robust. You can set them robust, but they cannot be changed back afterwards.

As I tried to say but with a different wording, yours is clearer

MrGorsky · Feb 26, 2013

Datatek said:
On the diesel, if you buy a new EDC it can be set to non secure mode eliminating the need for the handshake with the BECM.

There's no known way to change that on a GEMS you know about is there?

Datatek · Feb 26, 2013

MrGorsky said:
There's no known way to change that on a GEMS you know about is there?

I know nowt about the V8.

wammers · Feb 26, 2013

MrGorsky said:
There's no known way to change that on a GEMS you know about is there?

Same story on Gems. If it's set robust it can never be changed back to none robust.

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