green laning driving speed

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jai_landrover

jai_landrover

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For starters what speed does everyone drive at when green laning (i know i know i hear you all scream out, depends on the terrain and should be on faster that 15mph la la)

Ive always been brought up by my dad an ex HGV test driver, and brother an ex landrover trained mechanic and demo driver to drive respectfully of others, respect the terrain and to respect the vehicle and have mechanical sympathy for all of the vehicles components. And to keep total control (lower speeds usually in low ratio) Which equates to me loving green laning usually 2nd or 3rd gear low range or possibly 1st high dependant on terrain.

Gravel track - 1st occasionally 2nd high or 3rd low

Muddy track or impassable pay and play area - 1st, 2nd or 3rd low

I love the sound of the rear shocks as they compress and expend at very low speeds

The reason i ask is:
Been out a bit latley and have been out with the local rip off 4x4 club, im always the slowest or last person which doesnt really bother me i put it down to people trying to get more lanes in on a single day. Just everyone else seems to drive like they are driving a rally car on a fast stage or am I just an old fart at 24 loving the sound of my dampers Jai
 
na, slow is good :)

Your gearing sounds about right. i dont usually reach for 3rd low though. 2nd low most of the time or high 1st. low 1st for tech stuff or passing ramblers/horses.

tell those who drive at speed to slow down, whats the rush? your there to enjoy the countryside not to smash out as many lanes as possible.

If you want to drive like a *unt go to a P&P.

Some of the Moroccan desert pistes i drove at 30mph... was pretty scary but good fun :D no vehicles for 130km and nobody else around.

G
 
Mostly depends, as you say, on track, weather, covering etc, but mostly greenlaning I don't use more than 1 or 2 high or 3rd low-box .. 2nd high is for when it's flattish, well-packed and not 'bouncy' so literally whiffling along at just over tickover.

1st high is for when it's same, but wetter, maybe with more humps and bumps. I like to keep some momentum up with lower revs to get through lumpy/muddier bits. Low-box, because it's lower geared has a 'twitchier' responsive throttle and spins wheels easier, hence why I stick to high-box as much as I can. Most laning (in our area anyway) doesn't need speed or power, just the ability to keep going instead of cutting up!

If it gets tight or very lumpy is when I drop to low box, or if it's steep and needs some grunt to get through/over.

Same with diff-lock, mostly unnecessary, but at the speeds I go it slips in and out no trouble when needed, just before deep puddles/muddy ruts etc.

Pay 'n Play days are completely different .. I mostly stay in low-box as most hills I want to get up will invariably need some effort, speed, power and technique to get up. Similarly in deeper mud, some revs and wheel spinning is needed to clear tyres and keep momentum up as there's precious little grip.

When trialling it's invariably 1st or 2nd low-box, occasionally 3d, 'cos all I need to do is keep going ... speed just isn't (mostly) necessary. )
 
cheers Griff,

I would love to go to morocco one day in my landy is in a state but i am in the process of getting it quiet and driveable at speeds with limited funds new house it all seems a way off but if i can get it quiet and half decent inverior in the slow time i will take it somewhere.

I was once told by my dad that anyone can get through an obstacle the art is making it look easy. When we were marshalling a trial near thurrock services when i was a wee kid.
He then pointed to his 109 and drove the next section really slowly in total control showing me exactly what he meant
We then marshalled the course and only 2 others completed the course they were both doing the same in series motors the yee ha tricked up rangie drivers were getting very upset and stuck. They were knocking down canes left right and center. Since then i have the up most respect for series drivers that know their mota as they are usually end up being a much better controlled driver than the people that turn up in a fully kitted scorpion preped rangie with no idea Sure Taught me a lesson Jai
 
Yeah. Most of the lanes round here are pretty much farm tracks and well drained so pretty dry, even if it's raining, hence why I rarely need diff-lock. Like I said, I put it in when approaching what look like deep puddles/muddy/rutty areas, it's just that most laning round here isn't rutted/muddy/deep puddley ... ;)

When I go to Peaks, Norfolk, North Yorks I use it a hell of a lot more ... ;)
 
around these parts we have a mixture Im going to be honest now at the risk of giving Antis ammo but i will do so and explain myself I drive the lanes because I enjoy driving them and it is my right to do so. I prefer the untouched lanes although if they are cut up or look like they could be damaged by me driving them I will drive on as a responsible green laner thats only fair. The re-surfaced ones the councils are starting to do everywhere are not so appealing imo it ruins the whole experience. If i want to drive on tarmac and look at wonderful views I can drive any B road in wales although i do appreciate the need to maintain these rights of way and I think that some work is nessary and would gladly volunteer to help clear any lanes in the area that require such work. Jai
 
been out laning with bods who dont change into low range, they wondered why i stopped at each end of every lane(auto box), if ya can do it in high then you can but no means should you.Slow is everybodys friend-the green lane surface, the locals, the landowners, and anyone else on the lane.
 
To some extent I agree with you, we're fully entitled to drive green lanes and should where we can, that's how we can figh through Glass etc to keep them open .. if they're not used there's no point keeping them open.

Ob the other hand, too many people driving too often does make a hell of a mess and can lead to a state where standard vehicles or 'soft'-roaders are not able to also drive the lanes, to which they're also just as entitled.

There isn't an easy answer to this, though repairs, 'specially if the bobble hats see groups repairing lanes, do go a long way to mitigating the situation. Like the walkers highways in the Lakes, however, I suspect that some lanes will (have) become victims of their own beauty and technicality .. 'specially when you get groups posting pictures of vehicles stuck on (or just off!!!) green lanes in big holes.

I suppose voluntary 'one-way systems', like Stanage, help to not wreck many lanes. It's one-way, downhill, so less vehicles getting stuck and chewing boulders out, but that model probably couldn't be applied everywhere, after all, lanes were/are highways between places, and most people would have had to travel both ways originally ... ;)
 
I went out on Sunday everything was very wet and in places very slippery. So it was 1st and 2nd high all the way round and I used difflock on 2 sections both uphill on wet peaty grass. Used Low box once and that was actually on Tarmac/gravel negoitiating a steep downhill and very twisty lane.

Low box is for towing or hillclimbs/descents. or rockcrawling. Wet grass/mud should be treated like driving on ice or snow the higher the gear you can safely drive in the better. As there is less chance of spinning the wheels and the added momentum keeps you moving.
 
the problem is we always have to factor in the idiot factor which i didnt factor in someone will always doers it up for the others Jai
 
Soz, couldn't resist! Thought I'd add some piccies to illustrate this post.

Paul D said:
.. 'specially when you get groups posting pictures of vehicles stuck on (or just off!!!) green lanes in big holes.
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You mean....

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Although I just realised quite how close to it I was...

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jai_landrover said:
the problem is we always have to factor in the idiot factor
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Does you mean loike this? :eek:

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DomEllis said:
Soz, couldn't resist! Thought I'd add some piccies to illustrate this post.



You mean....

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LOL ... that's not what I had in mind as that's (possibly) just an accident. What I mant was when groups, such as the Disco3 peeps, when they went completely off track, got stuck (Doh!!) then couldn't recover easily and fecked up a lot of ground ****ing about ... then posted pictures of it as though they were untouchable ...
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yea some bloke and his mates tagged along in a vitara on a legal lane another member on here that i believe to be one of the most responsible green laners i have been out with. The driver of the vitara drove off into a field and drove over the scare crow. The landy zone member told the guys that he then believed to be drinkin beer to feck off and drove home if i ever come across these guys again i will sort out this problem once and for all Jai
 
Paul D said:
DomEllis said:
Soz, couldn't resist! Thought I'd add some piccies to illustrate this post.



You mean....

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LOL ... that's not what I had in mind as that's (possibly) just an accident. What I mant was when groups, such as the Disco3 peeps, when they went completely off track, got stuck (Doh!!) then couldn't recover easily and fecked up a lot of ground ****ing about ... then posted pictures of it as though they were untouchable ...
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As I was there on the day,this was an accident.The SLUTS chippie run had been organised right down to the last detail unfortunately the problem occured when ratty who is stuck wasnt told about the gert big hole on the left hand side of the puddle due to the recce run coming from the other direction and keeping to the left.No damage was done to the area as it's all slatted stone where the hole is.:D
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:speakenglish:
jai_landrover said:
yea some bloke and his mates tagged along in a vitara on a legal lane another member on here that i believe to be one of the most responsible green laners i have been out with. The driver of the vitara drove off into a field and drove over the scare crow. The landy zone member told the guys that he then believed to be drinkin beer to feck off and drove home if i ever come across these guys again i will sort out this problem once and for all Jai
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:confused::speakenglish:
 
Disco71 said:
Paul D said:
As I was there on the day,this was an accident.
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Which is what I thought, and isn't a problem (or shouldn't be) to anyone. ;)

My gripe is against the twunts who do it intentionally and cut up off-track, which gives us all a bad name .. we come off a lane with mud up the sides 'cos the tyres are wide, say, and get tarred with the brush of mudslinger or worse, when all we've actually done is driven perfectly legaly.
:rolleyes:
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