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Neil Brownlee
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beamendsltd
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In message <[email protected]>
"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
>
> Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
Having found the second article........ (yes I was a tad confused
for a bit.....).
I'm not sure what you're not sure about! Though having a 3x4x4,
especially 2 V8's, family representing "us" is not necesserily good PR,
nothing personal, I'm just thinking what the anti's will make of it.
Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
to go to Galstonbury every year in the good old pre-commercialsed
days (couldn't give a toss about CND - just out for a good time), and
there where any number of anti-anything-you-can-think-of's,
but they all had one thing in common, they were essentially opposed
to anyone enjoying the fruits of their own labour, since they were
not about to get off their butts and earn the "privilages" themselves.
The lengths they would go to fool themeselves, never mind the public,
was trully inspiring.
One or two *did* realy care, but they mostly seemed to come from *very*
pirivilaged backgrounds, and are now probably running their own companies,
company cars and all - most likely PR firms.
Flame proof suit donned.
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"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
>
> Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
Having found the second article........ (yes I was a tad confused
for a bit.....).
I'm not sure what you're not sure about! Though having a 3x4x4,
especially 2 V8's, family representing "us" is not necesserily good PR,
nothing personal, I'm just thinking what the anti's will make of it.
Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
to go to Galstonbury every year in the good old pre-commercialsed
days (couldn't give a toss about CND - just out for a good time), and
there where any number of anti-anything-you-can-think-of's,
but they all had one thing in common, they were essentially opposed
to anyone enjoying the fruits of their own labour, since they were
not about to get off their butts and earn the "privilages" themselves.
The lengths they would go to fool themeselves, never mind the public,
was trully inspiring.
One or two *did* realy care, but they mostly seemed to come from *very*
pirivilaged backgrounds, and are now probably running their own companies,
company cars and all - most likely PR firms.
Flame proof suit donned.
Richard
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Steve Taylor
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beamendsltd wrote:
> Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going. Now
the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts of
plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ? I
reckon, that taken over the proper product lifecycle for the Landy, they
are far and away more efficient than many modern eurovagen.
Steve
> Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going. Now
the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts of
plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ? I
reckon, that taken over the proper product lifecycle for the Landy, they
are far and away more efficient than many modern eurovagen.
Steve
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Neil Brownlee
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They were only after V8's....nothing else. Odd huh? I bet they cut the bit
where I say it's the same engine as the BMW 7 series....
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where I say it's the same engine as the BMW 7 series....
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Neil Brownlee
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In all honesty I don't think that 75% percentage is anywhere near true now
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Simon Isaacs
Guest
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC), "Neil Brownlee"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following
nonsense:
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
>
>Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
"During a heated debate Vicky asks Neil, "don't you care about your
children - they're going to inherit the planet".
"Neil retorts, "They're going to inherit a 4 x 4!" "
is a cracker, would have loved to have seen her face!
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Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
<[email protected]> scribbled the following
nonsense:
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
>
>Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
"During a heated debate Vicky asks Neil, "don't you care about your
children - they're going to inherit the planet".
"Neil retorts, "They're going to inherit a 4 x 4!" "
is a cracker, would have loved to have seen her face!
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
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Mark Solesbury
Guest
>
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
> >
> >Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
> "During a heated debate Vicky asks Neil, "don't you care about your
> children - they're going to inherit the planet".
>
> "Neil retorts, "They're going to inherit a 4 x 4!" "
>
> is a cracker, would have loved to have seen her face!
> --
I too have to congratulate you on this line!
Mark
9090
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
> >
> >Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
> "During a heated debate Vicky asks Neil, "don't you care about your
> children - they're going to inherit the planet".
>
> "Neil retorts, "They're going to inherit a 4 x 4!" "
>
> is a cracker, would have loved to have seen her face!
> --
I too have to congratulate you on this line!
Mark
9090
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beamendsltd
Guest
In message <[email protected]>
"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> They were only after V8's....nothing else. Odd huh? I bet they cut the bit
> where I say it's the same engine as the BMW 7 series....
>
I'll bet - pointing out that many saloon cars use far more fuel doesn't
fit in with the politics of evny.
Richard
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"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> They were only after V8's....nothing else. Odd huh? I bet they cut the bit
> where I say it's the same engine as the BMW 7 series....
>
I'll bet - pointing out that many saloon cars use far more fuel doesn't
fit in with the politics of evny.
Richard
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beamendsltd
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In message <[email protected]>
Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> beamendsltd wrote:
>
> > Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
>
> I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
> bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going. Now
> the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts of
> plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ? I
> reckon, that taken over the proper product lifecycle for the Landy, they
> are far and away more efficient than many modern eurovagen.
>
> Steve
I wouldn't push that one - of the first million Series motors how many
are still on/off the road? LR got a slap from the ASA over that campaign.
Doubtless there are many more LR "survivours" on the road than any other
make (except possibly VW camper vans), but 80%? - Nothing like I fear.
An awful lot of, particularly 109, Series motors died when 90/110's
dropped to affordable prices around 4/5 years ago - I went from actaully
managing to sell s/h Series bits to chucking the lot in a skip in just
12 months.
Richard
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Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> beamendsltd wrote:
>
> > Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
>
> I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
> bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going. Now
> the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts of
> plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ? I
> reckon, that taken over the proper product lifecycle for the Landy, they
> are far and away more efficient than many modern eurovagen.
>
> Steve
I wouldn't push that one - of the first million Series motors how many
are still on/off the road? LR got a slap from the ASA over that campaign.
Doubtless there are many more LR "survivours" on the road than any other
make (except possibly VW camper vans), but 80%? - Nothing like I fear.
An awful lot of, particularly 109, Series motors died when 90/110's
dropped to affordable prices around 4/5 years ago - I went from actaully
managing to sell s/h Series bits to chucking the lot in a skip in just
12 months.
Richard
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Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-02-06, Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
> bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going.
I doubt that's true of the Range Rover, Discovery and Freelander given
that they're aimed at a softer market who are more sensitive to
scratched plastic and peeling paint than the Series and Defender
market.
Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
mercs etc.
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> I think the clinching argument for the Landy is that figure I saw
> bandied about that 80% of all the Landys ever made are still going.
I doubt that's true of the Range Rover, Discovery and Freelander given
that they're aimed at a softer market who are more sensitive to
scratched plastic and peeling paint than the Series and Defender
market.
Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
mercs etc.
--
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Steve Taylor
Guest
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
> are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
> mercs etc.
I have to agree with you. The site of a Rangie on low profile tyres
makes me puke.
Steve
> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
> are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
> mercs etc.
I have to agree with you. The site of a Rangie on low profile tyres
makes me puke.
Steve
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Richard Brookman
Guest
....and Steve Taylor spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> Now the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts
> of plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ?
Unfortunately, no - I wish I could find the source, as it forms a cast-iron
answer to the "scrap all polluting old cars" brigade. I have read (and I am
happy to be corrected if anyone knows the real figures) that about 80% of
the lifetime energy and pollution cost of a vehicle is in its manufacture.
In other words, my old Land Rover has done almost all of the polluting it's
ever going to do, smokey exhausts, high fuel consumption and oil leaks
included. Whereas if I scrap it and order a tiny Eurobox or small diesel
that does a million miles to the gallon, I am setting in train a sequence of
events which will cause catastrophically large amounts of energy to be spent
and pollution to be caused in my name. Try that argument on an anti - they
don't like it. Series Landies, V-Dubs and Morris Minors - the cars of the
future!
If the Govt were serious about pollution, they would stop allowing the motor
industry to expand, and instead encourage the redeployment of the workforce
into small teams of engineers devoted to keeping the existing vehicles (most
of whose pollution has already happened) on the road. But then, if they
were serious about pollution, they would not be slapping punitive taxes on
biodiesel, or allowing the unrestricted expansion of cheap air travel. It's
all down to revenue, not clean air. Hypocrites.
--
Rich
==============================
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
> Now the "embodied energy" in a new vehicle is enormous, huge amouunts
> of plastic, steel, aluminium etc. etc. Has anyone got the numbers ?
Unfortunately, no - I wish I could find the source, as it forms a cast-iron
answer to the "scrap all polluting old cars" brigade. I have read (and I am
happy to be corrected if anyone knows the real figures) that about 80% of
the lifetime energy and pollution cost of a vehicle is in its manufacture.
In other words, my old Land Rover has done almost all of the polluting it's
ever going to do, smokey exhausts, high fuel consumption and oil leaks
included. Whereas if I scrap it and order a tiny Eurobox or small diesel
that does a million miles to the gallon, I am setting in train a sequence of
events which will cause catastrophically large amounts of energy to be spent
and pollution to be caused in my name. Try that argument on an anti - they
don't like it. Series Landies, V-Dubs and Morris Minors - the cars of the
future!
If the Govt were serious about pollution, they would stop allowing the motor
industry to expand, and instead encourage the redeployment of the workforce
into small teams of engineers devoted to keeping the existing vehicles (most
of whose pollution has already happened) on the road. But then, if they
were serious about pollution, they would not be slapping punitive taxes on
biodiesel, or allowing the unrestricted expansion of cheap air travel. It's
all down to revenue, not clean air. Hypocrites.
--
Rich
==============================
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Mother
Guest
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:22:30 +0000, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
>> are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
>> mercs etc.
>
>I have to agree with you.
Prolly not good to mention I'm a member of Greenpeace, then...
The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance. I feel it's all to
convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to divide opinion which
could be far better placed - collectively - elsewhere. Equally as
inappropriate as the 4x4 is the 'MPV', or the ****ty chav-hatch with
booming bass (noise polution), or the collection of scruffy white vans
that seem to be excluded from emission tests, or high performance
sports cars, or...
And... while I'm sort of touching the subject of noise polution - WTF
is the point of having an alarm system that 'cheeps' every time
another car - or person passes? Does the owner immediately rush to
the window to check their chavette is still there? No, course they
fecking don't - they don't even hear it over the noise of their
surround sound hi-fi chav-tv...
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of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s, they
>> are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers, BMWs,
>> mercs etc.
>
>I have to agree with you.
Prolly not good to mention I'm a member of Greenpeace, then...
The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance. I feel it's all to
convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to divide opinion which
could be far better placed - collectively - elsewhere. Equally as
inappropriate as the 4x4 is the 'MPV', or the ****ty chav-hatch with
booming bass (noise polution), or the collection of scruffy white vans
that seem to be excluded from emission tests, or high performance
sports cars, or...
And... while I'm sort of touching the subject of noise polution - WTF
is the point of having an alarm system that 'cheeps' every time
another car - or person passes? Does the owner immediately rush to
the window to check their chavette is still there? No, course they
fecking don't - they don't even hear it over the noise of their
surround sound hi-fi chav-tv...
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
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Mother
Guest
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC), "Neil Brownlee"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
Was she pretty?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
Was she pretty?
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Richard Brookman
Guest
....and Mother" <"@ {mother} @ spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC), "Neil Brownlee"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
> Was she pretty?
There's a pic with the story...check it out.
FWIW, a little. A bit of the
washing-my-hair-and-wearing-make-up-is-a-concession-to-global-capitalism for
my liking, but yeah, not too bad.
--
Rich
==============================
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC), "Neil Brownlee"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
>
> Was she pretty?
There's a pic with the story...check it out.
FWIW, a little. A bit of the
washing-my-hair-and-wearing-make-up-is-a-concession-to-global-capitalism for
my liking, but yeah, not too bad.
--
Rich
==============================
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Mother
Guest
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 19:55:35 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There's a pic with the story...check it out.
She's got a goateee..... ?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There's a pic with the story...check it out.
She's got a goateee..... ?
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GbH
Guest
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:22:30 +0000, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s,
>>> they are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers,
>>> BMWs, mercs etc.
>>
>> I have to agree with you.
>
> Prolly not good to mention I'm a member of Greenpeace, then...
>
> The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance. I feel it's all to
> convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to divide opinion which
> could be far better placed - collectively - elsewhere. Equally as
> inappropriate as the 4x4 is the 'MPV', or the ****ty chav-hatch with
> booming bass (noise polution), or the collection of scruffy white vans
> that seem to be excluded from emission tests, or high performance
> sports cars, or...
>
> And... while I'm sort of touching the subject of noise polution - WTF
> is the point of having an alarm system that 'cheeps' every time
> another car - or person passes? Does the owner immediately rush to
> the window to check their chavette is still there? No, course they
> fecking don't - they don't even hear it over the noise of their
> surround sound hi-fi chav-tv...
I wonder how many of those hated Chelsea Tractor 4x4s are really MPVs but thought
to be 4x4s by misinformed or otherwise ignorant objectors?
--
"He who says it cannot be done is advised not to interrupt her doing
it."
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:22:30 +0000, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Personally I think that the antis are right about the posh 4x4s,
>>> they are a total waste of time and space, e.g. newer range rovers,
>>> BMWs, mercs etc.
>>
>> I have to agree with you.
>
> Prolly not good to mention I'm a member of Greenpeace, then...
>
> The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance. I feel it's all to
> convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to divide opinion which
> could be far better placed - collectively - elsewhere. Equally as
> inappropriate as the 4x4 is the 'MPV', or the ****ty chav-hatch with
> booming bass (noise polution), or the collection of scruffy white vans
> that seem to be excluded from emission tests, or high performance
> sports cars, or...
>
> And... while I'm sort of touching the subject of noise polution - WTF
> is the point of having an alarm system that 'cheeps' every time
> another car - or person passes? Does the owner immediately rush to
> the window to check their chavette is still there? No, course they
> fecking don't - they don't even hear it over the noise of their
> surround sound hi-fi chav-tv...
I wonder how many of those hated Chelsea Tractor 4x4s are really MPVs but thought
to be 4x4s by misinformed or otherwise ignorant objectors?
--
"He who says it cannot be done is advised not to interrupt her doing
it."
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
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Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-02-06, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
> The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance.
Indeed, it's worth clarifying my dig at the road-going 4x4s by adding
that the bit I agree with the antis about is that there's no real
point in them. I don't think they add anything significant to
pollution compared to the large number of non-4x4s, in the same way
that green-laning doesn't add anything to the destruction of the
countryside compared to farming, housing, supermarkets etc.
> I feel it's all to convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to
> divide opinion which could be far better placed - collectively -
> elsewhere.
A convenient target that the antis can focus on instead of their own
activities, as per the massed ranks of ramblers tramping down the
countryside compared to the small number of 4x4 users.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
> The 'issue', for me at least, is about balance.
Indeed, it's worth clarifying my dig at the road-going 4x4s by adding
that the bit I agree with the antis about is that there's no real
point in them. I don't think they add anything significant to
pollution compared to the large number of non-4x4s, in the same way
that green-laning doesn't add anything to the destruction of the
countryside compared to farming, housing, supermarkets etc.
> I feel it's all to convenient to focus upon 'the 4x4' and acts to
> divide opinion which could be far better placed - collectively -
> elsewhere.
A convenient target that the antis can focus on instead of their own
activities, as per the massed ranks of ramblers tramping down the
countryside compared to the small number of 4x4 users.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
L
Larry
Guest
Methinks Vicky should try driving out in the Gambia
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7ff01f54d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
> >
> > Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
> >
>
> Having found the second article........ (yes I was a tad confused
> for a bit.....).
>
> I'm not sure what you're not sure about! Though having a 3x4x4,
> especially 2 V8's, family representing "us" is not necesserily good PR,
> nothing personal, I'm just thinking what the anti's will make of it.
>
> Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
> to go to Galstonbury every year in the good old pre-commercialsed
> days (couldn't give a toss about CND - just out for a good time), and
> there where any number of anti-anything-you-can-think-of's,
> but they all had one thing in common, they were essentially opposed
> to anyone enjoying the fruits of their own labour, since they were
> not about to get off their butts and earn the "privilages" themselves.
> The lengths they would go to fool themeselves, never mind the public,
> was trully inspiring.
>
> One or two *did* realy care, but they mostly seemed to come from *very*
> pirivilaged backgrounds, and are now probably running their own companies,
> company cars and all - most likely PR firms.
>
> Flame proof suit donned.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7ff01f54d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/index.shtml
> >
> > Now .... I'm not sure about this anymore.....
> >
>
> Having found the second article........ (yes I was a tad confused
> for a bit.....).
>
> I'm not sure what you're not sure about! Though having a 3x4x4,
> especially 2 V8's, family representing "us" is not necesserily good PR,
> nothing personal, I'm just thinking what the anti's will make of it.
>
> Personaly, I belive you can't win with the anti(anything)'s - I used
> to go to Galstonbury every year in the good old pre-commercialsed
> days (couldn't give a toss about CND - just out for a good time), and
> there where any number of anti-anything-you-can-think-of's,
> but they all had one thing in common, they were essentially opposed
> to anyone enjoying the fruits of their own labour, since they were
> not about to get off their butts and earn the "privilages" themselves.
> The lengths they would go to fool themeselves, never mind the public,
> was trully inspiring.
>
> One or two *did* realy care, but they mostly seemed to come from *very*
> pirivilaged backgrounds, and are now probably running their own companies,
> company cars and all - most likely PR firms.
>
> Flame proof suit donned.
>
> Richard
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Well 80% of my landie is still going, as for the other 20% I wonder
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"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In all honesty I don't think that 75% percentage is anywhere near true now
>
>
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> Neil
>
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þT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In all honesty I don't think that 75% percentage is anywhere near true now
>
>
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> Neil
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