Getting the front timing cover off?

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

Anyone? I've got a lot of the car apart, but the front timing cover is absolutely stuck fast.

Checked I've got all the bolts out twice. I have.

Is there a knack? Lump hammer? Heat? Keep going with a block of wood and tapping?

Help!

wammers · Feb 28, 2015

If you are sure you have all the bolts out. Gentle persuasion is the way forwards.

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

How do I gently persuade it? There's nothing to gently lever upon, I've got a rubber mallet I've tapped with but it isn't helping.

The only other thing I can do is grab it with my hands and wiggle, jiggle, and pull, but thats not had any effect so far…!

Saint.V8 · Feb 28, 2015

Remeber it is located with dowels so downward bashing will do little!

I know the block is ali, but using a screwdriver with a sharp(ish) point as a wedge may be the order of the day, just go gentle and tap it in the join then try again in another position, and then again, underneath the car, keep going round and round until you can get it to pop off!

Any minor surface damage can be rubbed down afterwards, as long as they are not deep gouges, you'll be fine!

Count the bolts...should be nine of them!

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Trust the sump is off, oil pick up is off, oil pipes are off, etc etc

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

You don't fancy coming and doing it for me do you?

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

9 bolts all recorded positions in a sheet of cardboard, sump is off, oil cooler and pipes are off, it all off!

I'm going to get an early night, and have another look tomorrow. I have a wide screwdriver I can have a tap with.

I suppose tapping near the bolt holes will reduce the chance of scratching the mating surface.

I'll double check the bolts and everything else. It's the end of a long day and I might be mistaken.

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

Here we go.

There is a difference between the bolts to undo in the V8 overhaul manual, compared to the Workshop Manual

And the other..

Also, I'm absolutely sure my camshaft sensor is held in with a clip rather than just bolting on, and the clip that holds the connector is on the left.

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

MrGorsky said:
Here we go.

There is a difference between the bolts to undo in the V8 overhaul manual, compared to the Workshop Manual…

And the other..

Also, I'm absolutely sure my camshaft sensor is held in with a clip rather than just bolting on, and the clip that holds the connector is on the left.

EDIT.

Right I see, the lower diagram is for the Thor engine. I may have removed bolt 7 and left in bolt 8 (on lower diagram).

Bugger. Lucky I didn't whack anything too hard!

Saint.V8 · Feb 28, 2015

Tomorrow is a new day Al.....

Working bent over the slam panel, can take its toll, take a fresh look in the morning, some of the bolts are done by feel and easy to miss.....if you really do get stuck, you have my number, Twickers is only 25-26 mile or so from me so could run down and take a goosey!

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
Tomorrow is a new day Al.....

Very true. Early night tonight, and I'll have a look with a clear head tomorrow.

Took a lot of it apart today!

Grrrrrr · Feb 28, 2015

Pretty certain you didn't. I'll drop a large paint scraper off tomorrow as less likely to twist and score.

Grrrrrr · Feb 28, 2015

It's a bit further north, Saint.

There are weasles but I've never seen them eat coffee and you'd be mad to try and stick your fingers in their mouths, let alone down their throats, even if they did.

Saint.V8 · Feb 28, 2015

Grrrrrr said:
It's a bit further north, Saint.

There are weasles but I've never seen them eat coffee and you'd be mad to try and stick your fingers in their mouths, let alone down their throats, even if they did.

:lol::lol::lol:

So Bucks Weasel coffee is not on the cards then?!?

Grrrrrr · Feb 28, 2015

Not without a funnel and some chain mail gloves!

Saint.V8 · Feb 28, 2015

Grrrrrr said:
Not without a funnel and some chain mail gloves!

Could be the start of something though!!

Grrrrrr · Feb 28, 2015

I'll order a bag of beans and a suit of armour. Keep an eye out for Bucks Badger Brew!

"Lovingly prepared using only the purest spring water, filtered for 900 years through the pristine chalk of the Chiltern Hills together with the finest delicate roasted coffee beans that have previously passed through a badger's alimentary tract".

Saint.V8 · Feb 28, 2015

:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi

Now your cooking on gas!

MrGorsky · Feb 28, 2015

Grrrrrr said:
I'll order a bag of beans and a suit of armour.

One of the better sentences I've read this year.

Grrrrrr · Feb 28, 2015

To be fair, any armour that has seen any action probably isn't that salubrious inside, with or without beans. Or badger musk.

wammers · Mar 1, 2015

Please note post #2 and, "IF YOU ARE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE BOLTS OUT".

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