fuel flows through the FIP but injectors are dry

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wodge

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hye i have a P reg p38 diesel .it was running alright on the road with no faults.i parked it up for half an hour and when i returned it would turn over but would not start.after checking i found there was no fuel at the injectors.after months of checking the loom with a multimeter and the solenoides with a dummy battery and fly leads trying to start the engine again there was no progress made.i desided to change first the FIP and after no change the in tank pump there is a healthy flow of fuel into the FIP and back out to the tank but still no fuel at the injectors .i give in any help would be apreciated.

cheers Wodge
 
hye i have a P reg p38 diesel .it was running alright on the road with no faults.i parked it up for half an hour and when i returned it would turn over but would not start.after checking i found there was no fuel at the injectors.after months of checking the loom with a multimeter and the solenoides with a dummy battery and fly leads trying to start the engine again there was no progress made.i desided to change first the FIP and after no change the in tank pump there is a healthy flow of fuel into the FIP and back out to the tank but still no fuel at the injectors .i give in any help would be apreciated.

cheers Wodge

Think you have already had the best answer you're going to get.
 
Answered this is the previous thread you posted in...!!

Check the BeCM to Engine ECU sync...using a Syncmate or Diagnostic Device...

Try Checking the Ignition relay (yes I know it is a Diesel) or bridging the Stop Solenoid relay (maybe they are the same relay - not sure)

Was the FIP from another RR - if it was from another vehicle you will need to change the Electrical top part of the pump as only the RR top will talk to the RR ECU!
 
Answered once more with feeling again above ...:)
sorry for duplicateing my message i usualy just view the posts and this wasa new line of communication for myself.many thanks for your input i purchased the other FIP from Ebay but i do remember the seller saying it came from a BMW car which was running when it was scrapped.I will change the top as surgested and keep my fingers crossed.other than cracking the injector pipes and cranking the engine are there any other tips on bleeding the fuel system you have in your wealth of knowledge
thanks again Wodge
 
sorry for duplicateing my message i usualy just view the posts and this wasa new line of communication for myself.many thanks for your input i purchased the other FIP from Ebay but i do remember the seller saying it came from a BMW car which was running when it was scrapped.I will change the top as surgested and keep my fingers crossed.other than cracking the injector pipes and cranking the engine are there any other tips on bleeding the fuel system you have in your wealth of knowledge
thanks again Wodge

If the security code stored in the ECM is not the same as the one written in the BECM the engine will not start. You will get no fuel to injectors no matter what you do to FIP. But if pump was from a BMW car you need to swap the electrics over. But you cannot just slap it on it has to be in the correct position.
 
If the security code stored in the ECM is not the same as the one written in the BECM the engine will not start. You will get no fuel to injectors no matter what you do to FIP. But if pump was from a BMW car you need to swap the electrics over. But you cannot just slap it on it has to be in the correct position.


Well, not 100% true, you can put it on just not tighten everything up, then crank the engine moving the eleccy bit of the FIP around until you get fuel at the injectors (cracked off) then close off injectors and crank until it starts, keep moving it around until you get a good tick over. Tighten everything and take for a test drive ....

now if you are a little bit too far forwards then the you will rev too quickly and will feel a little too wild to drive sensibly, and the opposite will happen if you are a little too far back! Sluggish and slow to pick up the revs. Now this is no substitute for a properly timed pump! but it will get you back on the road and able to get it somewhere if you can't time it yourself :)
 
Oh forgot to say

you will get covered in diesel!! so will your drive!! so will just about everything in your engine bay!! and make sure you're using Dino Diesel and not Bio or Veg oil
 
Well, not 100% true, you can put it on just not tighten everything up, then crank the engine moving the eleccy bit of the FIP around until you get fuel at the injectors (cracked off) then close off injectors and crank until it starts, keep moving it around until you get a good tick over. Tighten everything and take for a test drive ....

now if you are a little bit too far forwards then the you will rev too quickly and will feel a little too wild to drive sensibly, and the opposite will happen if you are a little too far back! Sluggish and slow to pick up the revs. Now this is no substitute for a properly timed pump! but it will get you back on the road and able to get it somewhere if you can't time it yourself :)

Think that is maybe what i was referring to. You cannot just slap it back on and get the engine to run unless you are a very lucky lad. You are not changing the timing by moving the pump top back and forth you are changing the fuelling. The final adjustment for 750 RPM should always be done with engine hot. :):)
 
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