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Freelander 1.8 K series hgf - more data

Discussion in 'Land Rover Freelander' started by The Mad Hat Man, Jan 9, 2007.

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  1. Hippo

    Hippo Lord Hippo

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    I follow it anorl. :)
    It's a street legal production class so mod's are very limited. They only use petrol's because of the power. If they tune it then it moves up to the super class. MSA mods have to be done for racing safety and checking but everything else is very limited. New seasons rules over ere: http://www.marches4x4.com/freelanderchampregs2018.pdf
     
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    V6 is costly to run (20mpg? you may as well get a v8 Disco!) and can turn into overheating nightmares unless you're a KV6 guru :)

    The TD4s are decent enough engines. I always knock 'em 'cos they is Kraut and I've got a durdy British L Series :D
     
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    Alibro Well-Known Member

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    I tried towing my sons WRX on a car trailer with my 1.8 but it really struggled. :oops: Thankfully it was only a couple of miles.
     
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    The 1.8 is fine for the vast majority of green lanes. Pay&play is something completely different - and here the petrol is not really the best option.

    Keep the engine standard, use a decent Payen head gasket if it needs replacing, and as Nodge says, check the cylinder head for hardness (the alloy cylinder head can go "soft" and will be essentially scrap if that happens - ask me how I know ;))

    +1 for "Go for it!"
     
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    I find this engines quite crap, like most British engineered car engines I've heard of (please guys be fair and don't be offended).
    For example, the coolant running through the inlet manifold (?) then we have those camshaft ends exposed with the rubberish seals, the placing of the thermostat and so on. Only good thing I can think of is that oil rail in case a bolt snaps because you have to remove the head.
    Although they are easy to work on (on a freelander) they need alot of servicing. I've spent months changing stuff and it never ran properly, ended up scrapping it. The HGF especially is a bit tricky, mls requires even liners (good luck with that!) and elastomer although Payen is not much of a difference.
    Fixing all these in workshop cost more than an average freelander with k engine worth... Simple math. And that is just the engine, there's more underneath.
    However, as a hobby to gain some dexterity on mechanical stuff these are perfect. Inexpensive to "fix" and require wrenching often, keeping people such as myself with free weekends busy.
     
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    I think the biggest problem with these engines is not so much the design but the build quality. The Chinese made a few small changes, built them properly and they are not having the issues BL/Rover group/MG/Rover and LR had.
    I don't know why they chose to build them so badly but it killed the company.
     
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    The K series can be built properly, if the builder knows what they're doing.
     
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    K-series is only known for one weakness: gasket failure. The rest of it is bomb proof: you can redline it all day every day and nothing goes pop. And I've done 100's of thousands of miles on these engines, and not one has blown a head gasket. But then I don't give it death from old - which is the Achilles heal of these motors.

    Rover's big mistake was to not "idiot proof" these engines when the problem was first recognised - and that is a management failing.
     
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