Familiar story CHG failure

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I don't have time to trawl through previous CHG threads, unless anyone can post a link to a particularly useful one, but suffice to say the garage has diagnosed that my cylinder head gasket has gone (Petrol freelander 1.8).

Everything fine 'til I took it in for routine service, after which I started to notice coolant loss. May be coincidence or may have been that they used incorect cooling system air bleed procedure.

Garage said that CHG had previously been modified and thermostat repositioned to avoid/remedy usual CHG failure.

I'm now topping up daily but temperature gauge has never indicated overheating.

Assuming the diagnosis is correct, here are my questions:

How long can I drive it round 'til it blows up? It's running fine at the moment.

Is there any chance of a post-warranty claim from LandRover?

I have a private warranty policy ('Motor Care'), what are my chances of a claim?

Cylinder head skimming not covered by warranty - how much does this usually cost?

What are my chances that the CHG failure are the result of dodgy cooling system work?

Thanks,

Matt
 
MattHarris said:
I don't have time to trawl through previous CHG threads, unless anyone can post a link to a particularly useful one, but suffice to say the garage has diagnosed that my cylinder head gasket has gone (Petrol freelander 1.8).

Everything fine 'til I took it in for routine service, after which I started to notice coolant loss. May be coincidence or may have been that they used incorect cooling system air bleed procedure.Yu wont prove it

Garage said that CHG had previously been modified and thermostat repositioned to avoid/remedy usual CHG failure.and?

I'm now topping up daily but temperature gauge has never indicated overheating.It wont - the temp guage reads the temp of the water coming back from the radiator

Assuming the diagnosis is correct, here are my questions:

How long can I drive it round 'til it blows up? It's running fine at the moment.how long is a piece of string? do you want a bill for £600+ or £2000+?

Is there any chance of a post-warranty claim from LandRover?no!

I have a private warranty policy ('Motor Care'), what are my chances of a claim?what have you got to loose?

Cylinder head skimming not covered by warranty - how much does this usually cost?about 50-100. get it crack detected before hand.

What are my chances that the CHG failure are the result of dodgy cooling system work?try and prove it!

Thanks,

Matt
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If yu carnt be arsed to have a look - why should we help you? you bought a dud - now flog it quick and get a doozil.
 
Thanks but I anticipate there being a lot of these threads to go through so I would appreciate some help with my specific questions..
 
Originally Posted by MattHarris
I don't have time to trawl through previous CHG threads, unless anyone can post a link to a particularly useful one, but suffice to say the garage has diagnosed that my cylinder head gasket has gone (Petrol freelander 1.8).

Everything fine 'til I took it in for routine service, after which I started to notice coolant loss. May be coincidence or may have been that they used incorect cooling system air bleed procedure.Yu wont prove it

Garage said that CHG had previously been modified and thermostat repositioned to avoid/remedy usual CHG failure.and?

I'm now topping up daily but temperature gauge has never indicated overheating.It wont - the temp guage reads the temp of the water coming back from the radiator

Assuming the diagnosis is correct, here are my questions:

How long can I drive it round 'til it blows up? It's running fine at the moment.how long is a piece of string? do you want a bill for £600+ or £2000+?

Is there any chance of a post-warranty claim from LandRover?no!

I have a private warranty policy ('Motor Care'), what are my chances of a claim?what have you got to loose?

Cylinder head skimming not covered by warranty - how much does this usually cost?about 50-100. get it crack detected before hand.

What are my chances that the CHG failure are the result of dodgy cooling system work?try and prove it!

Thanks,

The Mad Hat Man said:
If yu carnt be arsed to have a look - why should we help you? you bought a dud - now flog it quick and get a doozil.
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Thanks for the answers, anyone share these views?

Matt
 
what does C in CHG stand for?


Depends where the gasket has gone, personally I drove for several months as a daily runner with minor hgf cylinder one.

If its hgf 'light' then no mayo in the oil vut you will see steam from the block head.

Full fat hgf (mayo in the oil)

Is the garage sure its not leaking elsewhere, like how much are you losing?
 
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C is for cylinder i think

If its gone get it sorted quick i say mine went and it went bad took me 3 oil changes one after the other to get most of the crap out inc engine flush and then i had to clean all my water pipes as every one was full of mayo had to get a new rad the lot and mines still not right it takes ages to start unless i give it some foot its has a loss of power allsorts and ive done a few ive put it down to the HG going 3 times in 68k.

It cost me around £165 in parts to do mie that was HG kit inc bolts, head test and skim, thermostat, all oil+filter,engine flush and rad flush and a new rad and timing belt.
 
Northern Irelander said:
what does C in CHG stand for?


Depends where the gasket has gone, personally I drove for several months as a daily runner with minor hgf cylinder one.

If its hgf 'light' then no mayo in the oil vut you will see steam from the block head.

Full fat hgf (mayo in the oil)

Is the garage sure its not leaking elsewhere, like how much are you losing?
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That's what I don't understand; sometimes the reservoir is empty and when I fill it up it just spills out over the floor, yet other times it won't need topping up for a week, with the same level of usage.
 
I wouldn't recognise 'mayo' in the oil i'm afraid, suffice to say that the oil is dark brown and semi-opaque. No contamination in the coolant reservoir.
 
MattHarris said:
Thanks for the answers, anyone share these views?
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I agree wholeheartedly with MHM.

Now, I know the answers to you problems are held in the british library, with about a quintiscillion books, would you just expect to go to the front counter and say to the librarian "can't be arsed to look, will you tell me the answer?"

Dunno, maybe you would.

Good Luck driving your freelander with a known fault, hope it doesn't do too much more damage from where you are now. If you do, it will probably be someone elses fault. If you had taken the time to look at this forum, or any of the others, the consensus is the same: "Diesel, TD4 if you can".

I know there are lots of 1.8 petrols roaming around, and I'm not going to get into the whole argument AGAIN about this, but general consensus is TD4. (even published in LROI magazine)
 
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Ok thanks for constructive replies, turns out it was HGF and has since been repaired, with the warranty picking up most of the tab. Now though they are telling me that the oil light is flickering indicating low oil pressure. This may be due to a faulty oil pump or it may be that I need a whole new engine. As the blood drained from my face, I didn't think to ask at the time why exactly HGF would cause the oil pressure to be reduced, nor indeed why there was no indication before the repairs that oil pressure was reduced?
 
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