Different fuels

Its not about prices its about quality.... this is only my personal opinion

With almost everything having an injector system now


You can get diesel, with cleaning additives but in most diesel (well all diesel) there's already a cleaning additive in it at the pump, i don't know about petrol though

I would say don't use city diesel it has less sulphur in it, (and i suspect no or very little cleaning agents in it) and you get less MPG out of the stuff, don't use supermarket fuel, it is different to forecourt diesels and petrols, if your not sure, look at what ron your meant to be using, and then look at the ron on the pump, as a general use of thumb the more ron the better it is, and the better acceleration (but at the cost of MPG) and better smoother running etc

Please tell me your thoughts?


Just to add, with BP ultimate i have actually noticed a difference. Engine starts quicker and seems to be, well, quieter.

I never ever touch supermarket fuels. They have all sorts of stuff added to them and seem to have a highish water content. Not only that, the fiasco they recently had which was taking cars off the road left right and centre was the final nail in the supermarket fuel coffin for me. When I first had my P38 I would fill up at Morrisons but I stopped that after I noticed that my DSE was very smoky on acceleration with their fuel.

I only ever now fill up at BP, if I am away from home and there isnt a BP then I will use Esso, Shell or Texaco. My DSE doesn't smoke hardly at all now unless I really give it the beans so to say and I am convinced this is because I only fill up at 'proper' filling stations and not supermarket ones.

The one thing that does annoy me about alot of BP stations now though is that they have a bloody mini supermarket attached to them!! This means when I have filled up and want to go in and pay and leave because I am in a hurry to go somewhere there will ALWAYS be some person (usually female - sorry, but its true!) who has decided to buy half the shop and then once the ONLY cashier behind the desk has put it all through the till the person then realises they need to pay and spends the next 20 minutes unpacking their sodding handbag onto the counter trying to find some cash or cards to pay with, meanwhile I am standing there just wanting to pay for my fuel as thats the only thing I have bought and can't!! - grrrrrrrrrrrrr - really ANNOYING!

Anyway, yes, back on topic, supermarket fuels are a no for me.

-Wills

I've never had a problem with supermarket fuel. Also, if everyone filled up at the supermarket and didn't use Shell, BP, Esso etc the price of fuel would surely come down.

Si.

Some stations/supermarkets don't even do oil now!!

As for not using BP or Esso i would rather not use supermarkets, not main stream oil refiners, who don't just supply but research it dig for the stuff get it out of the ground refine it ship it and send it to the pumps, research & development cost a lot, if you want to blame anyone blame the government for selling off the North sea oil fields

never had a problem with tescos 99ron

we have been using asda fuel (shame on us) simply because of the price and the discounts they have avalable if u use an asda credit card- never had any problens with it tho (touch wood).

I have to pipe up and ask the obvious question of where do think supermarkets get their fuel supplies from if not from the same place as the oil company-branded stations?

lanmjdun said:

I have to pipe up and ask the obvious question of where do think supermarkets get their fuel supplies from if not from the same place as the oil company-branded stations?

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Same place, different speck, they use a lower ron = cheaper

All things are not equal

95RON, 98RON or 99RON?

A do Ron Ron

As wills said

I never ever touch supermarket fuels. They have all sorts of stuff added to them and seem to have a highish water content. Not only that, the fiasco they recently had which was taking cars off the road left right and centre was the final nail in the supermarket fuel coffin for me

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just goes to prove a point, supermarket gas is inferior to forecourt fuel

And it ONLY affected supermarkets

But that doesn't prove the point, because if supermarket fuels are that bad then the fiasco mentioned would be happening all the time, an isolated incident proves nothing.

My point was, that only super markets were affected, not forecourts so it just shows they don't use the same gas as forecourts, forecourts use a higher ron, next time your at a forecourt take a note and have a look see, supermarkets use a lower grade, and lower ron, so they are not the same product

What? No they don't, the only gasoline sold in the UK is 95, 98 or 99RON. There are few cars on the road that could run on anything less.

Then why was it that only gas from supermarkets caused cars to brake down?

It does prove the point if you think about it, it clearly shows that the supermarkets are adding things to the fuel to 'cut it' in a way.

My father fills his Volvo V90 estate up with Tesco fuel all the time and while his engine didnt die on him during that supermarket problem it DID run really rough. I got him over the next few weeks to run through several tanks of BP petrol. He reckons he can do about 50-60 miles more on one tank now (BP) than he could before (Tesco).

The Tesco fuel sometimes claims the same RON value as the 'real' stations but like I pointed out, it contains all sorts of additives and other crap.

So just because all fuel might seem as though its created equal at the depot it doesn't mean it is.

-Wills

You can't seriously believe that fuel depots or actual supermarket managers dilute fuel or add anything which would cause poor running, what kind of banana republic to you think we live in? Even India doesn't tolerate that sort of shenanigans.

Bearing in mind diesel doesn't have a RON number, but the higher the CEN the better. I can upload my 5000 word assignment on fuel composition if anyone thinks it might help lol.

TheVengefulElephant said:

I can upload my 5000 word assignment on fuel composition if anyone thinks it might help lol.

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I'd rather eat my own earwax.

Grippa said:

I'd rather eat my own earwax.

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Yeah I would too rather than have to read it again. We need a sarcastic pickchur thing.

TheVengefulElephant said:

We need a sarcastic pickchur thing.

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Oh, we do, do we?