Diff? eh?

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Tinbum101

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Ok massive noob question here, but i know own my first 4x4 thus have know idea what im doing, so id like to ask you lot for info on what to do with that little stick.

I just need to know what i need to have the Diff set at for what situation. I belive if driving on a normal road/motorway the Diff should be Free. But when should i fully engage it and when should it be high/low.

Also how dose using the differential work with the normal gears? Can i change gear with it engaged, can i move from a stopped position in a higher gear with out the vehical stalling? A users manual would be awesome ;)

Sorry for being a noob but i gotta learn from someone :doh: :)

Cheers
Nick
 
This covered quite alot on her so a search wpould help you.However as a rough guide the diff lever should be in high unlocked for normal road conditions.Hi lo is the range gears.Low is good for off roading, pulling heavy loads going down very steep hills(1 in 2!).
N means the transfer box is in netral=goes no where.Diff lock is for condtions where wheeel spin/loss of traction is possible.If ya have a wheel in the mud or the air put it on.But have a good read of the many through threads on here, good to learn from
 
Welcome to landyzone.:welcome2:

It might be worth you doing a search on this subject. You could even try reading the information plate situated by the gearsticks. If you don't throw up the information you require after that, we will be happy to do it for you then.
 
I typed up a page and a half of info on this about 3 weeks ago titled "This is the last time i'm going to do this so hopefully sombody will search for it in the future"
 
I typed up a page and a half of info on this about 3 weeks ago titled "This is the last time i'm going to do this so hopefully sombody will search for it in the future"


Which when you search for it as that comes back with . . . . . .

FECK ALL lol

Any chance you can find it - and cut and paste the link in here James.


Many Thanks


EDIT:some time laters : Searched through your posts and also quickly didnt find it :suspicious: which means still conflused.

I just wont touch it till I undertand proply. Mines a defender 90 2001, has the high low knob. I am used to driving a military one which was sooooooo much older and still being used by the Mob. Still this ones slighlty different and we didnt have much useage of the diff lock in the job I did in them. So trying to re equaint myself. If you dont understand - ask, if you still dont understand after being explained to - duck, then grovel n'd beg someone.
 
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Well what a night last night. Took my defender for a drive out on the moors on road. Took the dog for a walk in the pouring rain. Got back to my baby. Took my sopping coat off and reached over and shoved it down in the passenger footwell. It caught on something, there was a small click and then it was free. So Engine on, Radio On, into gear, off we went homeward . . . . . .. . backwards . . .. . eh. . . . WTF!!!! OMG BREAK BREAK. Try that again . . . . . nope same story. I got out and looked around . . . nuthin. So wtf was going on. Got back in . . . tried and tried but only kept creeping backwards. But there were no bangs, no nothin, just going backwards. Gears didnt seem to do anything. I was like offs what WHAT THE . . now wait that bloody click. O M G, the diff lock which I was unsure about how to use properly, was sitting there all inocently floppy in its neutral position. HA, but then feck cause I did say I wouldnt touch it till I knew exactly what to do with it. Now I know now, but at the time didnt, and by now it was dark, and the onlookers in the cottage across the way who kept seeing me roll backwards were passing round teas and coffees to each other and watching in fascination. Turned the interior light off and had a small cry. Had a smoke to calm down. Considered posting a panicked question on here but realised that I would have to trawl through the **** take to find the answers, and besides at that time you lot would all be glued to Alan Titchmarsh, or Jeremy Kyle reruns, and it would be ages before I would get a reply. So I decided to read the owners manual. In 15 seconds I was heading home. LOL. Go figure the owners manual, duh!

So this is for anyone who is afraid to ask or does not want to look a tit - I dont care cause you were all there once - I know that you know that - so this is a laymen's description of what that little knob does in a defender 90 TD5 2001 ( cant vouch for others but I would imagine its pretty much the same). Here goes. Read the manual as its explained there, but for ease, the knob behind the gear stick is the diff lock. But dont let that confuse you because it is in use the whole time. Its like your gear stick but the gear
postions are in an H shape. On the left hand side of the H are the diff lock postions, on the right of the H are the normal driving postions. Normal first - for normal driving on normal roads where there is no risk of wheel slipping put the Knob in the bottom right on the H. This is high range. If you are pulling away on a hill with a heavy load put the knob in the top right of the H to get going - this is low range. Now these is for normal driving. The middle of the H <-- is the neutral postion and this will mean that **** all works. Engine runs, lights work but mr drive off is not at home.

Now diff lock - this locks the wheels together so they are like a dumbell with the weights glued to the bit you hold. You can push them along the floor straight but if you try and make them go round your sitting dog, they slip and skid because one has to travel further round the bend than the other does and because they cannot rotate on the bit your holding the inner one is forced to skid on the carpet to keep attached to the bit your holding. So unless your wheels can slip easily do not engage the difflock.

The diff lock gears are on the left of the H. Top left is low range and bottom left is high range. Again the middle is neutral. Again **** all happens quickly if you put the knob there.

If you didnt get an owners manual with your rusting Land Rover Skateboard because mice had used it to wipe their arses in the dilapidated shed you dragged your landy out of, then I will happily type what it says in here. Its very clear. Just say you would like it typed up.

Now I know - being an ex navy submariner- that there will be old smelly oil stained rolly chewing toughies in here, whos thumbnails are unusually long and have 3 months worth of engine grease, lamb bone fat and various other icky substances wedged in em, who would look at what I have written and be disgusted. Comments like well if you didnt know what its for you shouldnt have bought one, will be slipping out of their nicotine stained upper lip hair. But do you know what I say, I say bring it you old bitter man, bring it and I will woop your sorry arse with more **** take than than your tired old mind can handle. Do you know why, cause I know **** all about **** all, but I am gonna learn whether you help me or not, and then I am gonna be helping you one day cause your gonna need me to. So there lol. Hope this helps others - and erm oh yeah - **** deflector to maximum - bring it lol
 
Well what a night last night. Took my defender for a drive out on the moors on road. Took the dog for a walk in the pouring rain. Got back to my baby. Took my sopping coat off and reached over and shoved it down in the passenger footwell. It caught on something, there was a small click and then it was free. So Engine on, Radio On, into gear, off we went homeward . . . . . .. . backwards . . .. . eh. . . . WTF!!!! OMG BREAK BREAK. Try that again . . . . . nope same story. I got out and looked around . . . nuthin. So wtf was going on. Got back in . . . tried and tried but only kept creeping backwards. But there were no bangs, no nothin, just going backwards. Gears didnt seem to do anything. I was like offs what WHAT THE . . now wait that bloody click. O M G, the diff lock which I was unsure about how to use properly, was sitting there all inocently floppy in its neutral position. HA, but then feck cause I did say I wouldnt touch it till I knew exactly what to do with it. Now I know now, but at the time didnt, and by now it was dark, and the onlookers in the cottage across the way who kept seeing me roll backwards were passing round teas and coffees to each other and watching in fascination. Turned the interior light off and had a small cry. Had a smoke to calm down. Considered posting a panicked question on here but realised that I would have to trawl through the **** take to find the answers, and besides at that time you lot would all be glued to Alan Titchmarsh, or Jeremy Kyle reruns, and it would be ages before I would get a reply. So I decided to read the owners manual. In 15 seconds I was heading home. LOL. Go figure the owners manual, duh!

So this is for anyone who is afraid to ask or does not want to look a tit - I dont care cause you were all there once - I know that you know that - so this is a laymen's description of what that little knob does in a defender 90 TD5 2001 ( cant vouch for others but I would imagine its pretty much the same). Here goes. Read the manual as its explained there, but for ease, the knob behind the gear stick is the diff lock. But dont let that confuse you because it is in use the whole time. Its like your gear stick but the gear
postions are in an H shape. On the left hand side of the H are the diff lock postions, on the right of the H are the normal driving postions. Normal first - for normal driving on normal roads where there is no risk of wheel slipping put the Knob in the bottom right on the H. This is high range. If you are pulling away on a hill with a heavy load put the knob in the top right of the H to get going - this is low range. Now these is for normal driving. The middle of the H <-- is the neutral postion and this will mean that **** all works. Engine runs, lights work but mr drive off is not at home.

Now diff lock - this locks the wheels together so they are like a dumbell with the weights glued to the bit you hold. You can push them along the floor straight but if you try and make them go round your sitting dog, they slip and skid because one has to travel further round the bend than the other does and because they cannot rotate on the bit your holding the inner one is forced to skid on the carpet to keep attached to the bit your holding. So unless your wheels can slip easily do not engage the difflock.

The diff lock gears are on the left of the H. Top left is low range and bottom left is high range. Again the middle is neutral. Again **** all happens quickly if you put the knob there.

If you didnt get an owners manual with your rusting Land Rover Skateboard because mice had used it to wipe their arses in the dilapidated shed you dragged your landy out of, then I will happily type what it says in here. Its very clear. Just say you would like it typed up.

Now I know - being an ex navy submariner- that there will be old smelly oil stained rolly chewing toughies in here, whos thumbnails are unusually long and have 3 months worth of engine grease, lamb bone fat and various other icky substances wedged in em, who would look at what I have written and be disgusted. Comments like well if you didnt know what its for you shouldnt have bought one, will be slipping out of their nicotine stained upper lip hair. But do you know what I say, I say bring it you old bitter man, bring it and I will woop your sorry arse with more **** take than than your tired old mind can handle. Do you know why, cause I know **** all about **** all, but I am gonna learn whether you help me or not, and then I am gonna be helping you one day cause your gonna need me to. So there lol. Hope this helps others - and erm oh yeah - **** deflector to maximum - bring it lol
most peoples posts on here will take the **** but give ya the info at the same time.
 
I could be wrong (I often am) - but the difflock doesn't "lock the wheels together so they are like a dumbell" - it locks the diff between the front and rear axles.
 
hi and low ratio can select either at stand still. Select a gear that you require. Diff lock this locks the front and rear propshafts together thus giving the front and rear diffs the same rpm. It does not lock your axle like a dumb bell you can still and will get stuck if you lift one wheel on each axle! With difflock in the open position you need only lift box one wheel to in nowhere. Right when to use he you are no loose ground gravel/sand/mud/wet grass/ice lock it! if there is a possibility of spinning a wheel due to ground conditions then lock it BEFORE you get stuck now when you engage it it may take some time for the light to come on this is because there is very little differential between the front axle and rear axle but it will lock.
Do not lock it if you are spinning wheels stop engage and drive on this usually happens when people ignore earlier point engage before getting stuck.
Ok when you get back to good ground you must unlock the difflock you risk damage to yous transmission he you fail to unlock it and drive no good ground for a period of time this is called transmission wind up. Dont be sacred if you drive for a very short period as long as everything is in good order you will not damage it but the possibility is there he you do not unlock it. You are more likely to damage your trans if you do not lock it and drive offroad wheel spinning and lifting wheels. You can engage difflock at box speed aslong at the wheels are travelling at the same speed i.e in a straight line not wheel spinning
 
hi and low ratio can select either at stand still. Select a gear that you require. Diff lock this locks the front and rear propshafts together thus giving the front and rear diffs the same rpm. It does not lock your axle like a dumb bell you can still and will get stuck if you lift one wheel on each axle! With difflock in the open position you need only lift box one wheel to in nowhere. Right when to use he you are no loose ground gravel/sand/mud/wet grass/ice lock it! if there is a possibility of spinning a wheel due to ground conditions then lock it BEFORE you get stuck now when you engage it it may take some time for the light to come on this is because there is very little differential between the front axle and rear axle but it will lock.
Do not lock it if you are spinning wheels stop engage and drive on this usually happens when people ignore earlier point engage before getting stuck.
Ok when you get back to good ground you must unlock the difflock you risk damage to yous transmission he you fail to unlock it and drive no good ground for a period of time this is called transmission wind up. Dont be sacred if you drive for a very short period as long as everything is in good order you will not damage it but the possibility is there he you do not unlock it. You are more likely to damage your trans if you do not lock it and drive offroad wheel spinning and lifting wheels. You can engage difflock at box speed aslong at the wheels are travelling at the same speed i.e in a straight line not wheel spinning

Ah yes I did say layman's terms I seem to remember, not I've read heaps about the subject lol
 
I could be wrong (I often am) - but the difflock doesn't "lock the wheels together so they are like a dumbell" - it locks the diff between the front and rear axles.

Your not wrong - it was a simple explanation as to the effect the diff lock has. Not exactly what it does. Thats easy to find out. What isnt is where that bloody knob goes when it pops out of where it should be lol.
 
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