Defender 90 low emission zone defiance

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You could move to Manchester as we told them to sod off when they tried to charge us.

The EU are running this country aswell. My 110, private tax E1098, commercial tax E333. And you need to be vat registered to qualify as self employed. Same vehicle, same emissions .

Iirc the station wagon has a certain letter in its Vin number, no correct letter no Lez excemption.

Don't think they're that smart, mines a CSW pre 2002 and they've got that wrong on their checking system

I found when looking for an ex MOD Landy that some are compliant, some aren't - exactly the same type etc.

Any petrol engine Landy is fine, it just affects diesels. As said, if the registration document says Estate or Convertible then it's compliant. If it says Utility then it's not. Quite a few ex MOD are registered as convertibles. I don't know if that was done as a sneaky get around or genuine attempt at correct classification?....

I've heard that some people have managed to get the classification changed. I've heard some did it by fitting forward facing rear seats and rear windows. I've also heard some failed. It basically seems pot luck so if you have a non compliant vehicle and want it to be compliant it's worth a try.

My search for an ex MOD 110 was severely hampered by wanting a compliant one, although I am planning on moving out of the M25 area as soon as I can. As it happens I found a non compliant 110 for sale which seemed to good to pass up, and can't wait to move!!

Apologies for updating an old post but interesting reply from TFL... I sent them a photo of the car and explained it was intended to be used as a private car.

We have passed the details you sent in to our head office who have accepted the above vehicle as LEZ Compliant.

Considering it was registered as a 4x4 light utility and modified with rear seats but no rear windows this reply somewhat contradicts their online guidance.

Only took them a month to answer me!

My old 90 (1988 CSW) was down as a 'light 4x4 utility' despite being factory-standard. I think it's just a generic class on older dual-purpose vehicles. Don't drive in London anyway but TfL site said it wasn't subject to LEZ.

I have just succeeded in getting the DVLA to amend my 90's V5C to show body type as estate! It was definitely a 4x4 light utility on manufacture, was latterly converted to a soft top and I had forward facing folding rear seats (exmoor trim) with seat belts fitted. I received a penalty charge notice from TFL after unwittingly driving in the LEZ, and after sending a letter to DVLA with pictures (no inspection required) they sent back a new V5C amended as requested - LEZ penalty charges quashed. Result. I'm happy to send a copy of the letter and photos used if anyone else needs a hand. Sadly I have just sold the 90 due to divorce..

Congratulation on getting the charge cancelled and the divorce. Commiserations on having to sell your landy.

Col

Bloody hell you got divorced, do you miss your Landy.

lynall said:

Iirc the station wagon has a certain letter in its Vin number, no correct letter no Lez excemption.

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This is broadly the case, but there are exceptions. Anyone in London wanting a Defender van should use the on line LEZ checker on ex utility company or ex military vehicles. There is no hard and fast rule, but it seems that if they were registered as an Estate you are good to go. I have checked out a good few seemingly identical vehicles. Some go free, some would cost you £100 per day. Go figure.

Bit confused on the rear seat requirement. Surely standard side facing seats would be fine as long as they were individual seats with seat belts and not a bench? Why do they have to be forward facing?

headintheclouds said:

This is broadly the case, but there are exceptions. Anyone in London wanting a Defender van should use the on line LEZ checker on ex utility company or ex military vehicles. There is no hard and fast rule, but it seems that if they were registered as an Estate you are good to go. I have checked out a good few seemingly identical vehicles. Some go free, some would cost you £100 per day. Go figure.

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My ex mod 110 which is obviously a van is an estate on the logbook.
I didn't do the initial registration, but it's just a case of what you choose isnt it?

Edit - yeah I'm exempt

Si Click said:

Bit confused on the rear seat requirement. Surely standard side facing seats would be fine as long as they were individual seats with seat belts and not a bench? Why do they have to be forward facing?

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There seems some sense in making an allowance for higher emissions for a vehicle that carries more passengers, but the above examples of vehicles with 2 seats being exempt suggests we are trying to apply common sense to something pretty arbitrary. Pot luck how the vehicles were originally described and luck of the draw who you contact if trying to change the category now.