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Discussion in 'Land Rover Discovery' started by disco95, Jun 23, 2010.

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  1. 50 pence

    50 pence New Member

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    I think you,d have more chance of making a 2004 TD5 last " for ever ".

    I,ve got a 2002 TD5 and although there is surface rust on parts of the chassis, I cant find any rust on the body !. ( apart from the rear bloody window guides ).

    Yes, by comparison the 300 is a lot more repairable, but theres nothing thats beaten me on it yet. ( with the help of posts on this forum ).

    To be brutally honest, my standard TD5 with BFG AT,s has gone everywhere i,ve wanted to go. ( its just the poor approach/departure angle,s that hold it back ).

    I really think you could make a D2 last a very, very long time with the right " love ".

    Del.
     
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    The same goes for any Landy.............................;)
     
  3. ratty

    ratty I'm not special I'm limited edition

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    If your vehicle was writen off after a few months you would get feck all of the £10k back from the insurance company. I'd be looking at the TD5 especially as it's for business use.
     
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    Hmmm…. I am thinking get another opinion on what will be essential for the next MOT. Stay away from the garage who wants to relieve you of £10K.
    The welding, steering pump leak, and leaking turbo pipe you may have to give out. The brakes, bearings, chrome ball and seal should be within your capability with the help of a manual. These are not what I would consider as major repairs. I am thinking, perhaps a rolling program over the next 3 years for all the other items just to keep the finances under control.
    A replacement clutch may be needed on any car. Rust can be kept at bay with an annual power wash and waxoyl treatment.
    If you are still not confident in undertaking these repairs then a Td5 may be your best option. However you may have to go further afield to get a better price. As you say, the electronic elements can be a nightmare.
    Why does the engine need a rebuild? Diesel engines can easily do 200K plus miles before needing an engine rebuild.
    For off road capability, you can’t go wrong with mud terrain tyres and difflock.
    I hope this helps.
     
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    Not really. Not for a fully restored one.

    In essence, it could be a brand new car for £10'000.
     
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    Unless you get an assured insurance valuation.
     
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    But it's not and nowhere near it. If you look at what they promise to do for (my eyes are watering with acid at the thought) £10,000 that does not make it a new car - it makes it a refurbished old car.

    I agree with a previous poster, stick with what you already have, get the welding/body repairs done by someone trustworthy and do the mechanical repairs yourself. They're easy to work on that's why everyone loves 'em.
     
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    If you are looking at 5yr loans then the 04 td5 could be a better option for you if you take it as car finance. You will be able to write off some or all of the costs against your business (depending on your accountant ;) ).

    personally I wouldnt give £3-4k for a 300tdi unless it was completely mint inside and out with low documented miles and def not anything cat d.

    Have you considered jap importers? there are many 300tdis coming over that are not affected when it comes to insurance like pajeros, surfs etc but still have very little rust and usually pretty low miles too. Would be a decent base to start from if you go down that route.
     
  9. disco95

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    thought about jap imports but hear that they not run well o our fuel and if you re adjust timming still no good plus service history not reliable and others say insurance not touch them or very expensive.
    what you think?
     
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    At 10k your not far off Discovery 3 money and i know where my money would go
     
  11. disco95

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    engine needs head,rocker,sump gasket but poss more once split?
    what u mean by diff lock, unsure what u mean i thought disco got this or do u need another type?
     
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    Discovery Jap imports run fine on our fuel (I run mine on part derv and part veg oil :) ) you dont have to worry about insurance either as they tend to be classed as reimports ie built in england, exported and brought back. I looked at many 4x4s including slittys before buying the disco but surfs, pajeros, bighorns etc were much higher insurance than their brit equivalent where the disco was the same no matter whether it was imported or not.

    Service history is your main issue with an import but you can check most parts and use a decent reputable importer too. One issue I found with them are the headliners, I have yet to see an import with the headlining still in place and not sagging but is a relatively cheap fix compared to welding ;) .
     
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    thanks for reply, who did you use for import
     
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    I bought mine privately with a few problems but the price was decent, the rust was minimal, mileage reasonable (under 80k) and I didnt mind a bit of (ongoing ;) ) work to get it how I want it.

    There are a few importers in the country which a google search should bring up, my uncle used a company from around chester area to buy a camper recently and really rated the service although the prices could be a bit better.
     
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    The main problem with Jap import Discos from all the ones I've seen is the price.

    It is not at all uncommon for the reimporter to ask £5 or £6000 for one and the issue comes when that first UK buyer comes to sell it, as no-one want to pay anything like that for an ex-jap import.

    It's a very fast way to lose money in my book. Yes the OP says he wants to keep it forever, but you know how life is - stuff changes.

    You may notice that he still hasn't decide/told us how much he is prepared to spend.
     
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    op here. was nearly looking at a 10k loan untill i thought of you guys for advice.
    i would like the best disco 1 at the cheapest price, yes would like ma cake and eat it. anyway now not willing to pay 10k so poss 4k max.
    disco 1 is what i really want.
    thanks all for advice,past,present and future.
    hope to have something by oct 2010. keep u posted and hopefully wont be going to a head doctor. lol.
     
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    Have noticed that, only thought is if the OP is looking into finance then there is no set limit. can only go off 04 d2 values and the fact he was willing to pay 10k :eek: for a specced up 300tdi.

    Import values are harsh and you can always look into doing it yourself, i think a 300tdi with reasonable mileage would cost around £1000 - 1300 but then shipping is around the same and then there is the other work to be done to make it legal for uk. It would work out cheaper than buying from an importer but you cant test drive what you are buying and have no come back if you buy a lemon.

    Other option for 300tdi could be buy one that has already had some work done ie lift, winch bumper for around £2-3k and spend a little more getting the welding work done and engine recon if needed. For £10k you could pretty much have a new d1 (new engine, running gear, interior etc) and still have lots of change left over for welding work.
     
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