Couple of Different Qeustions.

border · Mar 17, 2019

Might aswell put these in one post,
First gonna clean up this Tow Bar, Is it just the 2 bolt holes on bottom that hold it to crossmember ?

Next I've just put my gear box and engine mounts back on, I've used the same bolts that came off but they are only plain washers with flanged nuts, will these be OK ? or should I use Nylock or Spring Washers ??

And what thread are the holes in bottom of Gear Box Cross Member as I need to rethread them ??
Thanks

mick 1986 · Mar 17, 2019

border said:
Might aswell put these in one post,
First gonna clean up this Tow Bar, Is it just the 2 bolt holes on bottom that hold it to crossmember ?

Next I've just put my gear box and engine mounts back on, I've used the same bolts that came off but they are only plain washers with flanged nuts, will these be OK ? or should I use Nylock or Spring Washers ??

And what thread are the holes in bottom of Gear Box Cross Member as I need to rethread them ??
Thanks

I’m not certain, but the tow bar could be upside down. I think that style used 2 off 16mm bolts (largest 2 at the bottom) and 2 off 12mm bolts (lower 2 off of that matching 4).

I would replace every nut and bolt while your at it. What you use, stainless steel, mild steel, nyloc, spring washer, etc, is all personal preference.

I think my cross member bolts were all M10, just different lengths. Some bolted into the crossmember, some went through it with nuts.

jamesmartin · Mar 17, 2019

border said:
Might aswell put these in one post,
First gonna clean up this Tow Bar, Is it just the 2 bolt holes on bottom that hold it to crossmember ?

Next I've just put my gear box and engine mounts back on, I've used the same bolts that came off but they are only plain washers with flanged nuts, will these be OK ? or should I use Nylock or Spring Washers ??

And what thread are the holes in bottom of Gear Box Cross Member as I need to rethread them ??
Thanks

looks like a td5 cross member they are the only ones with threaded lower holes, i hope you arent leaving that much thread protruding past the nut
you have a choice nyloc and flat washer, flat ,spring and std nut or you can use those as the lock too but with a flat washer, i prefer nylocs for such as that

border · Mar 17, 2019

mick 1986 said:
I’m not certain, but the tow bar could be upside down. I think that style used 2 off 16mm bolts (largest 2 at the bottom) and 2 off 12mm bolts (lower 2 off of that matching 4).

I would replace every nut and bolt while your at it. What you use, stainless steel, mild steel, nyloc, spring washer, etc, is all personal preference.

I think my cross member bolts were all M10, just different lengths. Some bolted into the crossmember, some went through it with nuts.

Looks like the 2 largest holes are the only ones I can use, will have a good look at it tomorrow.

jamesmartin said:
looks like a td5 cross member they are the only ones with threaded lower holes, i hope you arent leaving that much thread protruding past the nut
you have a choice nyloc and flat washer, flat ,spring and std nut or you can use those as the lock too but with a flat washer, i prefer nylocs for such as that

I did get 2 different crossmembers with it, think I had a thread on here about which one to use, will try and find it.
I did think that these bolts were a bit to long they are these on photo, should I use shorter ones ? I can get some tomorrow.

jamesmartin · Mar 17, 2019

border said:
Looks like the 2 largest holes are the only ones I can use, will have a good look at it tomorrow.

I did get 2 different crossmembers with it, think I had a thread on here about which one to use, will try and find it.
I did think that these bolts were a bit to long they are these on photo, should I use shorter ones ? I can get some tomorrow.

or cut them shorter, a bolts measured not including the head

border · Mar 17, 2019

jamesmartin said:
or cut them shorter, a bolts measured not including the head

Thanks Might get some 100 mm with Nylocks

border · Mar 17, 2019

border said:
Looks like the 2 largest holes are the only ones I can use, will have a good look at it tomorrow.

I did get 2 different crossmembers with it, think I had a thread on here about which one to use, will try and find it.
I did think that these bolts were a bit to long they are these on photo, should I use shorter ones ? I can get some tomorrow.

These are the 2 I had to choose from to be sent for Galvanising Have I sent the wrong one ? The one I have galvanised is top one on both photos.

Al2O3 · Mar 17, 2019

border said:
Thanks Might get some 100 mm with Nylocks

Just cut them off with a couple of threads showing after the nut.

Al2O3 · Mar 17, 2019

I'm mixed up between the rear cross member and the gearbox cross member

mick 1986 · Mar 18, 2019

jamesmartin said:
looks like a td5 cross member they are the only ones with threaded lower holes, i hope you arent leaving that much thread protruding past the nut
you have a choice nyloc and flat washer, flat ,spring and std nut or you can use those as the lock too but with a flat washer, i prefer nylocs for such as that

border said:
These are the 2 I had to choose from to be sent for Galvanising Have I sent the wrong one ? The one I have galvanised is top one on both photos.

The top one is the same as I had supplied with my Marsland chassis. Mine is a 200tdi, with plastic tank, so no I don’t think you have the wrong one.

mick 1986 · Mar 18, 2019

border said:
Thanks Might get some 100 mm with Nylocks

If your struggling for bolt dimensions, you can have a look for “bolt kits” online, and see what sellers are selling to do the job. I don’t agree with everything on the net, like stainless for towing, but most kits will give you thebokt size and quantity.

border · Mar 18, 2019

OK Got bolts today M10 X 100MM as stated on part numbers from book.but they are to big to go through the holes, Now I know that some holes have to be re drilled again due to the Galvanising but I Really don't think these are like that, the bolts I have in now on photos, which the PO used too are thinner then the M10s not sure what size they are though. So not sure weather to take one to supplier and get them to match but in 100mm.
These new M10s DO fit the holes for gear box crossmember though so will come in handy for that.

jamesmartin · Mar 18, 2019

border said:
OK Got bolts today M10 X 100MM as stated on part numbers from book.but they are to big to go through the holes, Now I know that some holes have to be re drilled again due to the Galvanising but I Really don't think these are like that, the bolts I have in now on photos, which the PO used too are thinner then the M10s not sure what size they are though. So not sure weather to take one to supplier and get them to match but in 100mm.
These new M10s DO fit the holes for gear box crossmember though so will come in handy for that.

your box mounts are m8 your crossmember are m10, so youd want 5 x m8 x 100 and 1 m8 x 110 as top rear passenger side would normally have a earth cable clamped to it

border · Mar 18, 2019

jamesmartin said:
your box mounts are m8 your crossmember are m10, so youd want 5 x m8 x 100 and 1 m8 x 110 as top rear passenger side would normally have a earth cable clamped to it

Sounds right to me James Thanks. are the engine mounts the same M8 ?as they look the same too
Just realized when I looked at the book I just went off the part numbered bolt for crossmember thinking that they would all be the same. Glad I never got my drill out, was thinking about it too

jamesmartin · Mar 18, 2019

border said:
Sounds right to me James Thanks. are the engine mounts the same M8 ?as they look the same too
Just realized when I looked at the book I just went off the part numbered bolt for crossmember thinking that they would all be the same.

engine mounts are usually welded in

border · Mar 18, 2019

jamesmartin said:
engine mounts are usually welded in

Yes That's what the lad who took my chassis to get Galved said too, mine have only 2 holes at the top in them for bolts, he told me to drill another in the middle, or even another 2. Photos before Galvanising.

jamesmartin · Mar 18, 2019

id add another bolt

border · Mar 18, 2019

jamesmartin said:
id add another bolt

Will put one lower down in middle somewhere ,

border · Mar 18, 2019

Really Sorry but can we get back to the Tow Bar, I think Mick could be right it looks like it was on the wrong way. this is how it was on first photo. second after taking it apart. the first plate on left of second photo line up perfect with holes on my rear crossmember now.

jamesmartin · Mar 18, 2019

this is how im used to them fitting

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