Convoy light installation

i have a convoy light to mount onto my land rover and realised, i dont no exactly where and how it is fitted, i understand that it has 2 shine onto the diff. was just wondering if anyone who has one could take some pics for me to assist me with the installation
thanks

you could try www.emlra.org they'll know.

fits on yer rear crossmember in the middle(inside face) at an angle to shine on yer diff casin,av fun wirin it in if yer doin it proper

Why would you want such a thing anyway?

im an instructor at my local air training corps sqn. was asked if i would take my landie on exercise with them, i have to make a few alterations but there just wiring issues, i.e. being able to kill the break lights (no problem there) just wasnt sure exactly where the convoy light gets mounted.

i had a look on the EMLRA site, and cant register.
think im possibly overlooking something here but it asks u a question that needs 2 b answered correctly to register - What colour is the SAS land rover - surly depending on where it is operating would determine that

tich2000mb said:

iWhat colour is the SAS land rover :

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pink

tich2000mb said:

i had a look on the EMLRA site, and cant register.
think im possibly overlooking something here but it asks u a question that needs 2 b answered correctly to register - What colour is the SAS land rover - surly depending on where it is operating would determine that

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You're right. Although they were best known for being pink, and are usually known as Pink Panthers, or even Pinkies, they could easily be green.

tich2000mb said:

im an instructor at my local air training corps sqn. was asked if i would take my landie on exercise with them, i have to make a few alterations but there just wiring issues, i.e. being able to kill the break lights (no problem there) just wasnt sure exactly where the convoy light gets mounted.

i had a look on the EMLRA site, and cant register.
think im possibly overlooking something here but it asks u a question that needs 2 b answered correctly to register - What colour is the SAS land rover - surly depending on where it is operating would determine that

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I'm at a loss to understand why the Sqn would expect you to undertake these modifications to your personal vehicle before taking it way "on exercise" with them....

I hope that they are paying for the conversion/alterations and that they are then picking up the cost of any insurance alterations as well....

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Sounds a bit OTT. The only time I drove lightless with the regulars I was following a Posties 12 seater, civy speck, no convoy lights, dazzling bright brake lights every time he touched the peddle. If a Div HQ in BAOR (at the hight of the Cold War) weren't worried, why are the cadets?

Don't forget to paint the diff casing will you..

This is just a bit of poser-itis. Cadets adults are a bit prone to it. They like to impress the kids. The kids aren't fooled for a second. They know right away who is a poser and bull****ting them. I teach target rifle shooting to kids. I know how kids work.

The lighting switch and wiring of the 1960s-70s and 80s military Landrovers was/is a nightmare.

From the OFF position in the central position, the knob could be turned to both sides.

To the right the first click was side-(parking) lights, then another click to headlights. All the other lights worked normally in the off - side - head positions, brakes and flashers, hazards, dash lights the lot. So far, so good. Now the trouble starts.

Turning the knob to the other side (left) first disables ALL the other lights - every damned one, even the instrument lights. There were a few variations that let brake lights show (bad plan) but basically it was as above. One more click then powers the convoy light which is supposed to shine on the rear of the diff-pan which was supposed to be painted white. Ha Ha ... white clean diffs!!! IT'S A LANDROVER!!! Or a RL Bedford Truck! Or a Leyland Hippo! AEC Mliitant! Oh yes, and not a lot of light comes out of a convoy light that is facing forwards under the rear of any army 4x4 and has three inches of caked mud all over it.

I was an officer in the RCT Royal Corps of Trucks for years and years till 1983 and I don't ever recall anyone making use of the convoy lights even on exercises. It was a theoretical item dreamed up by some asshole sitting behind a desk. If we needed to travel lights out, we did, and damned slowly and carefully too. The last thing we needed was a bent driver. We had plenty of spare trucks, but every driver was a valuable item. Convoy lights were so dim, and varied so much from truck to truck, it was far better NOT to use them, and let night-accustomed eyes sort it out by keeping in sight of the arse end of the guy in front. Our drivers weren't stupid, nor were they suicidal (well, not too often!), so they took great care, and I don't recall we ever had a shunt in that sort of driving. So we did use the "lights OUT" position occasionally, but NOT convoy lights.

Sorting wiring faults in those Landies was a real horror. The REME dreaded problems with the wiring in these Landies.

So let our cadet chappie wire his up. He could of course just pull a few fuses or take out the brake light bulbs.

But the real question is, who is going to be driving the vehicle behind him? I ask because the following driver is the only person on the planet to whom a convoy light one ahead could be even remotely useful. It has NO OTHER USE WHATSOEVER. So it's a pose I'm afraid to say.

CharlesY

CharlesY said:

This is just a bit of poser-itis. Cadets adults are a bit prone to it. They like to impress the kids. The kids aren't fooled for a second. They know right away who is a poser and bull****ting them. I teach target rifle shooting to kids. I know how kids work.

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Not all of us are prone to it.........

I'm more concerned with the Health and Safety implications of someone driving an until Landie around a training area where there are (potentially) kids 'running' about.... I wouldn't want to sign off the Risk Assessment...!

It's just posing.
I have 17 kids shooting tomorrow, 15 on Wednesdays and Saturdays.
This is smallbore target rifle shooting. Real boring one shot at a time stuff.
To score 10 at 25 yards the kids have to hit a dot the size of a fullstop. They score between 92-ish and 98/99 all the time. They have a good teacher .... ahem .... !

CharlesY

Sorry chap, what is "just posing"? Fitting a Convoy Light, or being an Adult Instructor with a Cadet Unit?

Good Drills on the Small Bore Shooting though - used to be an RCO, mainly running smallbore rimfire ranges, single shot with the No8... Got to get back into it..

RAV said:

Not all of us are prone to it.........

I'm more concerned with the Health and Safety implications of someone driving an until Landie around a training area where there are (potentially) kids 'running' about.... I wouldn't want to sign off the Risk Assessment...!

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Well my advice would be not to have the convoy lights fitted then you'll all have to drive around with side lights on and it'll be a lot safer.

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Well my advice would be not to have the convoy lights fitted then you'll all have to drive around with side lights on and it'll be a lot safer.

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I won't be! A Rangie with Convoy Lights could be a talking point I admit, but probably for the wrong reasons!

RAV said:

Sorry chap, what is "just posing"? Fitting a Convoy Light, or being an Adult Instructor with a Cadet Unit?

Good Drills on the Small Bore Shooting though - used to be an RCO, mainly running smallbore rimfire ranges, single shot with the No8... Got to get back into it..

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Oh, just fitting the convoy light. I mean, what for? Are there a whole lot of vehicles (a convoy) going night driving off road nose to tail on this cadet exercise? I don't think so.

If you want to get back into shooting, join a rifle club! There are lots of them. Let me know where you stay (area) and I can find out what clubs are nearest.

Or you can ask NSRA yourself.
Fullbore is more fun.
I make and sell and repair rifles and ammo.
It's my business.

CharlesY