Cmon experts i need to do a very important job tomorrow!!!!

In Very Plain English :speakenglish:
I am going to have a go at replacing my Front Discs and Pads tomorrow.

Fair bit of judder when braking

Mode of transport is as follows

DISCO TD5 03 MODEL AUTO FRONT VENTILATED/DOUBLE DISCS MINTEX PADS

Question(which may sound silly but i'll ask it anyway) Do i have to replace them with the same type of discs or can i use solid ones AND what makes are recommended given my driving style.
My main journey is 2 or 3 times per month heading for North Wales with a trailer carrying mowers tools e.t.c. and a car half full of food,clothes,cool boxes and three 16 stone peeps.
A few steep descents on the way and traveling at 06 upside down.

When the trailer is parked up there is a mixture of both tame and "spirited driving)
The only off road, if at all, is bumpy muddy fields nowhere near extreme.

So answers on a Postcard(the forum) would be a real
"Le Grande Aid"
Thanking you in advance :5bcheers2:

Sounds like you need the ventilated discs!

A heavily laden, hard driven auto will be hard on it's brakes and solid disc's won't dissipate heat as quickly. Get the pads hot enough and the brakes will fade - you'll push the pedal harder, but less and less happens. Not good.

Incidentally, alloy wheels get rid of heat quicker - the reason why some trucks use them.

Alloys are 18 Inch 5 spoke

bit late, but |I would have suggested yu go for EBC disks and greenstuff 6000 pads - designed for 4x4's and have reduced brake fade and dust.

You can't put solid discs on without also replacing the calipers to suit too. So effectively no, you need to fit same type, ventilated.

Fitting solid after ventilated would also be seen as a downgrade and for the use you have you want, if anything, to upgrade .. .

teedeefyveluvver said:

In Very Plain English :speakenglish:
....traveling at 06 upside down....

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What's that mean then, in plain english?

I don't think you can be prosecuted yet for breaking the speed limit on an internet forum, but doubtless they'll think of it soon!

What's that mean then, in plain english?

Read 06 upside down

Today i fitted Bearmach ventilated discs
Mintex Brake Pads
Copper-slipped the sliders,one of them was actually stuck the little rubber sleeve had split and 7 sorts of ****e had got in,cleaned it all up,cleaned out the hole in the caliper where the slider fits,put them back in and they were springing in and out like a goodun.
Air-tool wire brushed the hub face,all caliper parts,back plate,copper-slipped all the pad contact areas on the caliper,cleaned up the inside of the alloys where they fit on the hub faces and put a little bit of copperslip around the stud holes inside.

1 hour 15 minutes per side taking it steady and checking everything.

Took it out for a tester and wow really smooth.

The reason i changed em was that when braking at highish speed the steering wheel would start to shake rattle and roll,almost undriveable.
It got progressively worse over the weekend and felt very unsafe.

The ones that came off were Brit-part discs with Mintex pads and were fitted about 2 years ago and 30000 miles later both were shagged.

Not sure if this is good or not really,there has been some tremendous weight in the car and trailer over the last 2 years.

The one thing that really "grinds my gears" to coin a phrase,i had the brakes checked before hand by 3 separate KwickATSNationwide places and one Independent L.R. Garage ,every one of em said" nothing wrong with your brakes mate,no run out plenty of wear left on the pads.

Cuh the truth is what you choose to believe.

Thanks for reading

Sounds very much like your discs had warped. Hard use (and driving into deep water with hot brakes) can do this. Disc and pad thickness/newness is irrelevant, you'll still get very bad vibration.

Try changing the brake fluid for a higher specification too; you are obviously giving teh brakes a hard time; 30,000 miles doesn't sound much to me.

My 300Tdi auto has done 120,000 miles on the last discs, often five up, sometimes seven up, luggage on the roof and climbing 7,000 feet mountain passes in 40 degrees C ... and record weight was 6.5 tonnes - fully laden with a plant trailer and a Bentley Turbo R on the back!

Use the manual holds on the auto, and avoid lots of light braking - it's better to firmly bring the speed down in one go than keep riding the brake lightly.

teedeefyveluvver said:

What's that mean then, in plain english?

Read 06 upside down

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You mean 90?...why not just say it? Like you said, plain english is good

Sounds very much like your discs had warped

If it can be believed the L.R. independent clamped a gauge on the front and found the run out to be 7 something and apparently up to 15 is acceptable.

But the fact of the matter is like you say,they must have been because when now braking it,s really smooth.

Which brings me to ask about bedding them in.

One tech advised 25-30 miles another 100 miles and another 500

Who to believe??

Day 2 and the car pulls up very very smoothly
Just out of interest here,s a few pics of the old discs.
If anybody wants em for skimming they can have em both for £10.00 posted anywhere in the UK

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/gtsthouwa/11052010571.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/gtsthouwa/11052010571.jpg
They have been checked by 3 separate garages and there was no warping