Certificate of Conformity.....help !

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Has anyone please got a Certificate of Conformity that I could borrow or buy so that I can get my Defender through an IVA ( Individual Vehicle Approval ) test by the DVLA ? It's a short wheel base 300 TDi station wagon that I built myself from parts, some second-hand and some new. The resulting vehicle is 1998 spec and I need to get it tested and registered before I can get it on the road.
Also, could anyone who has a similar model please tell me what the type approval number is on your 90". It can be found on the aluminium VIN plate on top of the pedal box and is the number on the top line on the plate above the VIN. I believe it may begin with the letter 'e'. Oh, and it needs to be a RHD UK spec also. Cheers guys.

Dippypud · Nov 17, 2015

LifetimeLandy said:
Has anyone please got a Certificate of Conformity that I could borrow or buy so that I can get my Defender through an IVA ( Individual Vehicle Approval ) test by the DVLA ? It's a short wheel base 300 TDi station wagon that I built myself from parts, some second-hand and some new. The resulting vehicle is 1998 spec and I need to get it tested and registered before I can get it on the road.
Also, could anyone who has a similar model please tell me what the type approval number is on your 90". It can be found on the aluminium VIN plate on top of the pedal box and is the number on the top line on the plate above the VIN. I believe it may begin with the letter 'e'. Oh, and it needs to be a RHD UK spec also. Cheers guys.

Is this for Birmingham, Alabama ?

Dippypud · Nov 17, 2015

LifetimeLandy said:
Has anyone please got a Certificate of Conformity that I could borrow or buy so that I can get my Defender through an IVA ( Individual Vehicle Approval ) test by the DVLA ? It's a short wheel base 300 TDi station wagon that I built myself from parts, some second-hand and some new. The resulting vehicle is 1998 spec and I need to get it tested and registered before I can get it on the road.
Also, could anyone who has a similar model please tell me what the type approval number is on your 90". It can be found on the aluminium VIN plate on top of the pedal box and is the number on the top line on the plate above the VIN. I believe it may begin with the letter 'e'. Oh, and it needs to be a RHD UK spec also. Cheers guys.

Why do you need a CofC ?
Why can you not use your original reg ?
Was the original vehicle subject to a Certificate of Destruction (CoD) order ?

Passing a IVA test will give you type approval to get a Q plate ...

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Dippypud said:
Is this for Birmingham, Alabama ?

Hey Dippypud, that's the fastest reply I've had on the forum ever ! No is the answer, it's the original Birmingham in the UK.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Dippypud said:
Why do you need a CofC ?

You have to show a CofC when applying to register a vehicle for the first time. I'm in the process of trying to get a first registration from the DVLA.

Why can you not use your original reg ?

There is no original reg for my vehicle as it's built up from parts from all over the place. The chassis is a new galvanised one that I had made so I had to get a new VIN from DVLA for the chassis. To use an original reg, you have to have I think 3 major components from a registered vehicle to start with.

Was the original vehicle subject to a Certificate of Destruction (CoD) order ?

There was no original vehicle.

Passing a IVA test will give you type approval to get a Q plate ...

Not sure of that, but the application form for first registration asks for a type approval number.

waldershelf · Nov 17, 2015

LifetimeLandy said:
Not sure of that, but the application form for first registration asks for a type approval number.

I thought that was the point of the IVA test 'cos you don't have type approval.

Dippypud · Nov 17, 2015

LifetimeLandy said:
Not sure of that, but the application form for first registration asks for a type approval number.

Have a read of the HM Gov. site ...
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-vehicle-approval

Timpo · Nov 17, 2015

Where did you get the chassis from?
If this chassis has been used before, then it will have an index already.
Also, the vehicle can be dated from the chassis number if it has been used outside of UK already.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

waldershelf said:
I thought that was the point of the IVA test 'cos you don't have type approval.

Well, I think you are right but I think it's more applicable to kit cars which can be built of all sorts of strange parts.. The way I see it is, if you build a vehicle which is basically the same as a manufacturer has already built hundreds or thousands the same; the manufacturer has already got type approval and so there will be a number which will be common to all those they have built.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Dippypud said:
Have a read of the HM Gov. site ...
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-vehicle-approval

Already got a copy and the one that covers vehicles for transport of good rather than as passenger vehicles.
I've read so many different guides and downloaded all the DVLA forms but I can't progress any further without the CofC.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Timpo said:
Where did you get the chassis from?
If this chassis has been used before, then it will have an index already.
Also, the vehicle can be dated from the chassis number if it has been used outside of UK already.

I bought the chassis directly from the manufacturer Designa Chassis, so it has no VIN number.

Timpo · Nov 17, 2015

Try and buy a 90 chassis with V5 and go that way.....or it's a 'Q' plate I reckon.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Timpo said:
Try and buy a 90 chassis with V5 and go that way.....or it's a 'Q' plate I reckon.

Do you mean, build all my parts onto that chassis ? It would not be legal as I would need that chassis plus the original engine/gear box or axles from the same vehicle. I think it's 3 major components that you must have to retain the vehicles identity.
I would not mind at all having a 'Q' plate (once it's on your vehicle you can't have it changed for a personal plate, you are stuck with it).
I don't really care what is on the reg plate, I'd just be glad to get it registered.

Dippypud · Nov 17, 2015

Give them a ring, they're usually very helpful ...

VOSA Test Station - Birmingham [Vehicle Identity Check Test stations (VIC)]
Unit 10 Elmdon Trading Estate
Birmingham
B37 7HE
T: 0121 782 4389

Saltlick · Nov 17, 2015

I thought an SVA/IVA also allowed an age related plate if you could prove the age of the bulk of the parts? It's a points system for the identity isn't it, so if you've got 3 major assemblies from the old car that total over X amount of points, then that's it's identity etc.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Dippypud said:
Give them a ring, they're usually very helpful ...

VOSA Test Station - Birmingham [Vehicle Identity Check Test stations (VIC)]
Unit 10 Elmdon Trading Estate
Birmingham
B37 7HE
T: 0121 782 4389

I visited there once, last year. It's only a small unit on an industrial estate and very secure. No one to greet visitors. A small reception room with a locked door leading into the main building with all sorts of unfriendly notices informing you that you should not be there without an appointment. Also not to ring the bell or knock on the glass for attention. No parking spaces outside. I can't remember if I actually rang them at the time but as you have suggested it I will give that a try. I believe their main business there is establishing the identity of vehicles, so they will be scrutinising serial numbers etc and checking them against the V5.

LifetimeLandy · Nov 17, 2015

Saltlick said:
I thought an SVA/IVA also allowed an age related plate if you could prove the age of the bulk of the parts? It's a points system for the identity isn't it, so if you've got 3 major assemblies from the old car that total over X amount of points, then that's it's identity etc.

Agreed. But you have to have the original chassis or an exact copy/pattern replacement. Or the original monocoque body if there's no separate chassis.

Timpo · Nov 18, 2015

LifetimeLandy said:
Do you mean, build all my parts onto that chassis ? It would not be legal as I would need that chassis plus the original engine/gear box or axles from the same vehicle. I think it's 3 major components that you must have to retain the vehicles identity.
I would not mind at all having a 'Q' plate (once it's on your vehicle you can't have it changed for a personal plate, you are stuck with it).
I don't really care what is on the reg plate, I'd just be glad to get it registered.

Like for like changes are not 'changes', this ruling applies to hybrid type vehicle constructions....

Jam1 · Nov 18, 2015

Timpo said:
Like for like changes are not 'changes', this ruling applies to hybrid type vehicle constructions....

Yeah like he says same type of part but doesn't have to be the original part it left the factory with

LifetimeLandy · Nov 18, 2015

Timpo said:
Like for like changes are not 'changes', this ruling applies to hybrid type vehicle constructions....

Please see attached copy of page 5 from the VOSA , 'Guidelines on how you can register Kit cars and rebuilt or radically altered vehicles'.

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