can the ace be removed?
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neilly
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My crystal ball, says you might regret asking that question...........
Has been asked a few times, you may find the answers by doing a wee search.
Cheers
Has been asked a few times, you may find the answers by doing a wee search.
Cheers
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Benefits of replacing ACE - costs about £500 and lasts a good while
Disadvantages of keeping ACE - costs £500 to fix, costs £500 to fix again, costs £500 to fix again again, costs £500 to fix again again again.............................
Disadvantages of keeping ACE - costs £500 to fix, costs £500 to fix again, costs £500 to fix again again, costs £500 to fix again again again.............................
Rubbish, repair once with hydralic hoses!
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hope u don't mind me asking guys but is that the same kind of system on mine called a DSC
have a DSC button on the dashboard which i assume should be turned off when going off road , don't quite understand why though , haven't had a landy with all of this technology on before
thks as always listening to me babble one
have a DSC button on the dashboard which i assume should be turned off when going off road , don't quite understand why though , haven't had a landy with all of this technology on before
thks as always listening to me babble one
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You didnt make the good choice then IMO, i agree that these days is cheaper to repair than convert due to this conversion hysteria the market is full of cheap but good pumps, ECUs and valve blocks and the pipes can be made by flexible hose with the proper fittings and stay leakless for ages, also it's not only about the price but about the system's capability so why downgrade a well enhanced vehicle? ... shame on those who invented the conversion kits and IMO the statement that it makes no difference is from the area of a psychological symptom called " cognitive dissonance - the engine of self justification"
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brian47
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hope u don't mind me asking guys but is that the same kind of system on mine called a DSC
have a DSC button on the dashboard which i assume should be turned off when going off road , don't quite understand why though , haven't had a landy with all of this technology on before
thks as always listening to me babble one
Nope, ACE is not the same as DSC.
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) reduces engine power and applies ABS braking to individual wheels to help maintain control, should it detect a loss of lateral grip that could occur in a turn.
ACE is the Active Cornering Enhancement and uses hydraulic rams instead of static anti-roll bars. There are two accelerometers, one on the chassis and one in the roof space to measure the amount of roll while cornering and the ACE then operates the appropriate ram to level the sideways roll.
looked at cost of of changing as to repair, and tbh not a lot of dif, easier to repair and the replacement way looks like a lot of hassle
got slight leak from my block at the min so gonna have to replace 2 rear pipes, was gonna pull the whole lot and do as mji has done but for now i will just repair the rears, if the fronts go in the next year or so i may pull the lot of and have the block machined and pipes made up
got slight leak from my block at the min so gonna have to replace 2 rear pipes, was gonna pull the whole lot and do as mji has done but for now i will just repair the rears, if the fronts go in the next year or so i may pull the lot of and have the block machined and pipes made up
Done mine, seems fine, all new rubber hydraulic hoses, about £110 from a local hydraulic place. £60 to machine the ACE block to take 1/4" BSP fittings.
Mine was because I messed up and used too thin pipes on the pump side, the wrong block (made money back by selling it converted), and I also replaced the rear bar because £60 was too cheap to leave on Ebay.
Was still less than a conversion kit.
Those original pipes are pretty expensive. Also I had two failures causing a leak, the flange inside the seal had spilt where it was formed.
The rusty rear pair to me said convert to new pipes
to be honest i intend to cut the rear pipes just behind the block, buy two new seals and the collets and use 10mm copper pipe and two straight compression couplers to rejoin, to save changing the whole pipes for the min , as im sure 6 months to a year from now the front ones will go tits up ,only reservation is the size of the orig pipe on the car, some are saying its 3/4 not 10mm dif of 0.4mm
The problem with block leaks is you have to use genuine pipes into the block unless BSP modify as they have a flange on them.
Cannot find a picture but they do split along the flange and leak there. The flange is used to locate into the ACE block and if split it will slowly leak. Two of mine had split.
10mm pipe will work between a stub left in the block towards the rear of the car.
But into the block, genuine or BSP modify.
The pipes are 3/8" external (9.5mm) and 1/4" BSP fittings are fine for the 4 ram hoses. Pump hose needs something bigger. I used 3/8" BSP hose
Cannot find a picture but they do split along the flange and leak there. The flange is used to locate into the ACE block and if split it will slowly leak. Two of mine had split.
10mm pipe will work between a stub left in the block towards the rear of the car.
But into the block, genuine or BSP modify.
The pipes are 3/8" external (9.5mm) and 1/4" BSP fittings are fine for the 4 ram hoses. Pump hose needs something bigger. I used 3/8" BSP hose
Good luck getting your new block seals to "seal".
You cannot use anything but original LR pipes unless you machine the block due to the flare
