Cadillac 429 rebuild

the size will be stamped on your current shells, just have a look

Cheers, I popped into the engine shop on the way home and he said the same thing. Standard ones should be blank or have std on them so hoping it hasn't been ground before.

He's also going to drill the flywheel for the crank when it arrives

So what is the change of wanting to re-due the bottom end of the motor? When this was mentioned very early on in your build? You said it was rebuilt and no need to waste money? And got into a hell of a disagreement with a few of us on the subject? With you telling us we knew nothing

so your flywheel is gonna be drilled between the current bolt holes to fit your current crank?

Mines like that as the landy flywheel has a differnt bolt pattern than the p76 crank, I wondered if zen would freak out about it and I meant to show him when he was here

Thor1950 said:

So what is the change of wanting to re-due the bottom end of the motor? When this was mentioned very early on in your build? You said it was rebuilt and no need to waste money? And got into a hell of a disagreement with a few of us on the subject? With you telling us we knew nothing

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The change is that the crank is coming out so I may as well change them if they're worn. I'll know if they're good or not next week when I remove the crank to be drilled for a spigot.
I'm presuming as it was rebuilt in the last decade and lightly used it should be fine but in the event of needing new shells I'll buy either the Federal Mogul or Clevite. Clevite were the originals but I've been advised that they aren't as high quality now by some engine shops and others have said the mogul (sealed power) ones are better now so no idea which to go for if I do. There's only £15 in it.

fett said:

so your flywheel is gonna be drilled between the current bolt holes to fit your current crank?

Mines like that as the landy flywheel has a differnt bolt pattern than the p76 crank, I wondered if zen would freak out about it and I meant to show him when he was here

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Yeah they're going to have half an inch between the old PCD and new one so it's ok for strength. I'll then either get the crank and flywheel balanced together or have the flywheel zeroed with the clutch and leave the crank as is

Federal are very high quality can't go wrong with them. Never heard of the other name.

And the holes on the crank well dosen't sound like good idea. Old hole should be pluged, (Thread round rod installed and lock tighted in)

And never heard on internal ballanced crank. They are balanced, but have a harmonic balancer on the front of crank

Thor1950 said:

Federal are very high quality can't go wrong with them. Never heard of the other name.

And the holes on the crank well dosen't sound like good idea. Old hole should be pluged, (Thread round rod installed and lock tighted in)

And never heard on internal ballanced crank. They are balanced, but have a harmonic balancer on the front of crank

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Clevite were the original bearing company

Crank isn't being drilled it's the flywheel that's being drilled

The engine is internally balanced so the crank is balanced as far as I'm aware rather than having a flywheel with a 30oz weight offset on it

Dr_evil said:

Clevite were the original bearing company

Crank isn't being drilled it's the flywheel that's being drilled

The engine is internally balanced so the crank is balanced as far as I'm aware rather than having a flywheel with a 30oz weight offset on it

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Ok then plug the flywheel holes then

Use either brand then as they are both good

Clevite, Inc. was a Cleveland, Ohio based manufacturing company, founded as the Cleveland Graphite Bronze Company. The name was changed to Clevite in 1952 with the acquisition of the Brush Development Company. In 1969, Clevite was acquired by Gould-National Batteries.[1] The company was a leading producer of bearings and a significant US government defense contractor.

are federal mogul still in business?

I explored there derelict abandoned factory near guildford a few years ago!

Federal Mogul Camshafts, Surrey | TheTimeChamber

flat said:

are federal mogul still in business?

I explored there derelict abandoned factory near guildford a few years ago!

Federal Mogul Camshafts, Surrey | TheTimeChamber

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Alive and well, very good business and high quality

Federal-Mogul Signs Definitive Agreement to Purchase Significant Portion of Honeywell Friction Business - MarketWatch

Mogul are in America yeah and I'll probably buy mogul if I need new shells as they're cheaper and quicker to ship!

Flywheel holes can't be plugged without tapping first but they might not need it, then again I could probably put a stud in and tig it too

Dr_evil said:

Mogul are in America yeah and I'll probably buy mogul if I need new shells as they're cheaper and quicker to ship!

Flywheel holes can't be plugged without tapping first but they might not need it, then again I could probably put a stud in and tig it too

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do press in doc .003-.004 press fit, put plugs in a freezer over night and heat fly wheel in a oven to 400F and they will fall in

Didn't think of that.....

Good shout

fyi fedral mogal and clevite and a host of other names make most of there bits in the third world now, most likely shells will come from mexico!

Thats from the host of research I did when looking in to lifters (only one factory in the world making v8 lifters now thats not in the third world)

I wouldnt weld on the flywheel as it may not stay 100% flat or round

fett said:

fyi fedral mogal and clevite and a host of other names make most of there bits in the third world now, most likely shells will come from mexico!

Thats from the host of research I did when looking in to lifters (only one factory in the world making v8 lifters now thats not in the third world)

I wouldnt weld on the flywheel as it may not stay 100% flat or round

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Don't know exactly what they make in there US plants but they have a bunch of them

United States
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Well those are the only two other than some random unnamed for a third the price! Don't trust them though so will go federal, they look tougher

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Well those are the only two other than some random unnamed for a third the price! Don't trust them though so will go federal, they look tougher

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Both are good Doc, don't over think this part

Thor1950 said:

Both are good Doc, don't over think this part

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They're cheaper too it's a no brainier if they're both good!

Dr_evil said:

They're cheaper too it's a no brainier if they're both good!

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If they sponser John Force and most all nascar's you got nothing to worry about

I haven't looked into then much tbh! It took long enough tracking them down never mind checking who the company sponsors!!